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Homopratensis2 3 points ago +3 / -0

Commensal bacteria live in the gut/vagina/sinuses, etc but not the uterus unless there is a problem.

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Homopratensis2 2 points ago +2 / -0

Bacteria is plural. Bacterium is singular. A woman begetting even a single bacterium is still impossible.

If you can't distinguish a bacteria from a zygote you've got a really shitty microscope or you're blind. They are exceedingly different, and trivially distinguishable. I once worked in a micro lab, high school students can tell a eukaryotic cell from a prokaryotic. Easy peasy.

The more important thing to note is that a bacterium remains such. A human zygote unless killed will develop into a human embryo, than fetus, then infant, child, adult, and senescence and die unless it is killed prematurely.

How is drawing the line at first trimester, or 12/13 weeks not entirely arbitrary? Something physical/biological you want to tie it to? Because people will just say whatever age you draw the line to get what they want.

Your arbitrary pregnancy week line makes no logical sense to me, is not based in any biological or moral distinction of significance.

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Homopratensis2 3 points ago +3 / -0

No they are not. Bacteria beget bacteria, and most free living independent of some host organism. If there is bacteria in a woman's uterus her body will undertake to destroy it, while it supports and nourishes a human zygote.

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Homopratensis2 3 points ago +3 / -0

You are being idiotic. Even little children can understand that like begets like. Cats don't beget cockroaches. Humans don't beget bacterium.

A human zygote is entirely human DNA. It is zero percent cat. Zero percent bacterium. A human zygote has more in common with any other human than it does with any other living thing.

The differences you speak of in reference to a human zygote compared to an average, adult, awake human are differences of circumstance or degree not kind. For example, a really small human, like an infant is clearly a human. Likewise someone who has their limbs amputated or someone in a coma (unconscious). The differences between a zygote and a normal adult human are indeed great, but they represent only difference in development.

You were a zygote once, like everyone else reading this.

The matter of being "worthy of protection" as you put it is another matter, a question of ethics/mortality. I view many of the distinctions our legal system has erected to separate an "abortable fetus" and a non abortable infant as arbitrary. Literally the ability to respire independent of the mother is the standard. It's so arbitrary that broader application of the principle would mean we could freely murder someone on a ventilator, as they are not independently respiring. You seem to draw an equally arbitrary and more vague distinction at some point of gestation. Where is that event, week, etc.?

I draw the line at conception...the moment that one becomes human. Before that you are just gametes. Non vague, non arbitrary. But the truth is that because such a legal standard would not admit the free sex ethics so many in our democratic society desire, our courts/legislatures have devised a bunch of nonsense to justify abortion. If you want to know who's to blame, most people need to only look in the mirror.

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Homopratensis2 3 points ago +3 / -0

My wife did nothing bad or unusual during 2020. Just because many women are assholes doesn't mean all are.

Also, I dated for about 3 years before I got married (age 23). I feel like some of that time was wasted, but it's the cost of doing business I guess.

A good wife makes your life immeasurably better. Is an invaluable treasure. Cope harder.

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Homopratensis2 3 points ago +3 / -0

No, it can't, which is why you try to get it while you can.

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Homopratensis2 4 points ago +4 / -0

Scientifically, you are completely idiotic. I am a molecular biologist, and if one of my students said something so idiotic I would send them back to remidal instruction.

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Homopratensis2 2 points ago +2 / -0

In case you haven't figured it out yet his handle is very apt. He IS impossible!

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Homopratensis2 1 point ago +1 / -0

Bullshit. Men and women need to get it together to make progress in any culture war.

Bullshit again. Nobody can do whatever they want, has any assurance of retaining anything they possess to, or move wherever they want. The vast majority of the world is off limits for immigration practically, there are countless laws one must follow, and congress can pass a law tomorrow saying you can be asset stripped through taxes.

A good wife is a tremendous comfort and asset in life. You get sick, she can take care of you. Can't make it somewhere, you can send her, etc. Just a wife living in your dwelling is a deterent to burglary, and can engage in all sorts of economic activity.

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Homopratensis2 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yea, and I could fuck myself too. But I don't. Because it's better with a wife.

Money cannot buy a whole lot of worthwhile things. Hugely obvious ones too, like a healthy romantic relationship, children, youth, time.

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Homopratensis2 2 points ago +2 / -0

My wife voted for Trump, but like votes matter.

And she could leave, but leaving would hurt her just as much as me, probably more.

She does read my posts, she may even chime in with this thread, but what freedom, security, or spontaneity are you talking about?

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Homopratensis2 5 points ago +5 / -0

Actually far poorer. A good woman is a massive wealth multiplier. You give a (good) woman some basic food like oats, or flour, or meat and salt and she coverts it to a delicious meal. You give her some fabric and she makes clothes. A house, a bed...she makes a home. A sperm and she makes you a baby. All the basic needs of life I need anyway, my wife has only made them better. Even the pearl necklace I gave her looks far nicer on her neck than in a box. Money can't buy love or happiness. Massive cope anyone who says otherwise.

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Homopratensis2 2 points ago +2 / -0

Sure buddy. Not all of us are bicurious. I'm decedend from a long line of super straight dudes that probably marched in Caesar's legions...my name means "good with a spear." Wait...now you probably are getting turned on by me...spears are kinda phallic. ?

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Homopratensis2 6 points ago +6 / -0

Pretty awesome parasite that cooks, cleans, does your laundry, makes babies, takes care of those babies, and educates those babies...oh and had sex with you twice a day if it's got time. Awesome parasite!

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Homopratensis2 5 points ago +5 / -0

Read my post history you fool. My wife posts on here. Lol.

If everyone though like you the world would be an awful and boring and sterile place.

My kids are my own. My wife has known no man but me. She could leave, but won't. She meant her vows and so did I.

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Homopratensis2 2 points ago +2 / -0

Well I wasn't thinking of it that way lol. I too straight I guess... Of course no sodomy. I think of men doing the "fucking" and women as getting "fucked" too since the passage of genetic material is from man to woman. They receive, the man gives.

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Homopratensis2 2 points ago +2 / -0

So conscienceness is your magic point where you become a human being? If so, when you go to sleep and wake up you are transitioning from being a non-human to a human.

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Homopratensis2 4 points ago +4 / -0

Well you shouldn't stick your dick in anything besides your wife, IMO.

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Homopratensis2 9 points ago +9 / -0

Are you retarded? From moments after a sperm fertilizes an egg and the genetic material organizes itself you are a distinct human being unlike any other, and not even resembling a bacteria, etc.

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Homopratensis2 5 points ago +5 / -0

Like when does something that isn't a human being magically become one? That's absurd.

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Homopratensis2 3 points ago +3 / -0

Or homeschool and become the school board.

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Homopratensis2 6 points ago +6 / -0

First of all, you have to ask yourself how retarded do you have to be to get baby trapped? Do you feel bad for mouse that gets a trap sprung on him? No, he's a retarded rodent. If a man is that stupid, willing to take that bait, I have no patience with him. He should be smarter than a rodent.

Second, I have managed, somehow, to have had sex thousands of times by now, always raw, never once using any form of birth control. Yet never got baby trapped. This is because I only have been with my wife, who I married in my early twenties when she was a teenager. All that babies I've had (7 and one on the way) I wanted.

If you can't trust the woman who is your wife then you might as well as just not form any intimate relationship with anybody. Some people really are better off being alone. Maybe you're one of them. They doesn't mean others can't trust others and enjoy healthy, fufulling, and fruitful relationships.

I chose my tradcon life. After living it for a while I am so convinced of its vast superiority compared to other lifestyles that I go through life with the sense of pity towards almost everyone.

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