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posted 5 years ago by Voluntaryism 5 years ago by Voluntaryism +32 / -0
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– Voluntaryism [S] 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

Turns out dictators tend to like preventing people from exercising exclusive control over their own bodies. Almost like the concept, being an a priori truth, threatens their very existence.

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– Grumman 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Turns out dictators tend to like preventing people from exercising exclusive control over their own bodies.

The entire tobacco industry revolves around denying people exclusive control over their own bodies, so that they will keep buying their highly addictive drug no matter how much damage it's doing to their health, property and finances. Even if that was not true, converting the drug into an aerosol and spreading it around the room is still a violation of everyone else's right to not partake in their drug habit.

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– Voluntaryism [S] 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

The entire tobacco industry revolves around denying people exclusive control over their own bodies so that they will keep buying their highly addictive drug no matter how much damage it's doing to their health, property, and finances.

This claim cannot be made. To take tobacco or a cigarette or whatever is one's own choice, as an action. It is up to them whether they wish to make this action or not. It is not that you have a right to exclusively control your own body as such, but rather that nobody else can claim to have this right. Indeed, a drug addict is not in full control of himself while he is on 800 different drugs, all in lethal quantities, but nobody else is exercising such a right over him. There is nobody to punish.

Even if that was not true, converting the drug into an aerosol and spreading it around the room is still a violation of everyone else's right to not partake in their drug habit.

Everybody else retains the ability to leave the room. The absence of doing so amounts to agreement with the consequences of the smoker's actions. To understand why, consider the case of a man asleep in bed with his wife; he starts to make sexual advances, and his wife does not resist or express discontentment in any way. Can she now later say she was in fact raped? Of course not. The husband had no way of knowing if she liked this, especially if this was the first time he had made such advances with her.

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– Killroyomega 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Your arguments are lame.

Tobacco is a poison and serves no beneficiary purpose.

Ban it so no one has to smell or deal with that disgusting filth.

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– evilmathmagician 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Tobacco is a poison and serves no beneficiary purpose.

Is it not enough to know that even poison can be medicinal with careful application?

I was able to avoid needing cocaine or risking heart palpitations with energy drink overdosing by carefully combining nicotine and caffeine. It simulated sleep if I got the dose perfect, and soothed my nerves a bit otherwise. Not that I recommend this, of course - under normal circumstances, you should just sleep. Sometimes life doesn't work out that kindly.

Most cigarettes do smell like shit, though, I'll give you that.

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– Killroyomega 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Nah tobacco should be treated as a class 1 drug and fully banned. It's worse and more insidious than most other drugs.

Hitler was right.

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