The flaw with your argument is that these people are as anti-Jew as they are anti-white. They support the Palestinians, they support the BDS movement, they support the mass movement of Muslims to countries that serve as sanctuaries for Jewish communities and oppose any effort to rein in their culture's worst tendencies.... they might be Jews but they aren't "the Jews," no more than Shaun King is representative of all whites.
Various leftist secular Jews are the ones doing this self hating routine.
No one is blaming ALL of the Jews.
What op suggests is merely pointing out that the "my fellow white people" clowns are not actually white people but are actually leftist individuals of a Jewish background pretending to be white.
Yes they are, the national socialists are, the alt-right conspiracists are, the non-jewish socialists are, the non-jewish communists are, the black national socialists are too.
Lots of people blame all of the Jews for the exact same reason they blame all of the whites. All you're doing is supporting their idiotic motte & bailey routine. They sitll embrace a racial theory of history, they still blame jews generally, they still advocate for the removal of jews, and then they say "but not all" and you give them credit where they don't fucking deserve it.
It's not any different from when feminists bitch about men generally, then laugh when you point out 'not all men' and say that they never said all men. Then, of course, some feminist shows her power level and goes "Yes, all men."
It's why I got my flair. Disagreeing with their antisemitism means that I must be a jew.
First of all I want to say that I personally have the courage of conviction to say exactly what I mean. I am not afraid of the optics to say non politically correct or offensive truths. I have previously said that I think women being able to vote is one of the reasons for the decline of western civilization and I still stand by it.
I don't hide behind a motte-bailey scheme and I don't enable them either.
When I said no one is blaming ALL the Jews I meant in the context of this thread. No individual here was making the claim that every single Jewish individual is guilty or needs to be removed or anything to that degree.
The argument that the op makes is pretty clear. Op doesn't blame all Jewish individuals but rather points out that there are disproportionate amount of secular leftist Jews pushing globalism and woke ideology under the guise of "my fellow white" people.
I have made it clear what my stance is in other comments in this thread.
But I will reiterate them again for you.
I can see that not all Jews are good and also that not all Jews are bad.
I can see that there is a disproportionate amount of secular leftist Jews pushing globalism and woke ideology. They are not the only ones doing this.
White women, Brahmin Indians and the CCP are also trying to push globalism and woke ideology in the west.
I'm not saying your intent is to serve as a motte and bailey, just that you are when you say "No one is blaming ALL of the Jews". They really are. And I think OP is "hiding his power level".
I blame jewish culture for a lot of problems. I can't give a clear and rigid definition for it, nor could I for any other culture. I have yet to git that gud. If I were to try defining it, I'd have to go over stereotypes and their values, which I don't think most people would receive that kind of argument well. I feel comfortable using it because I don't use it like a magic wand to explain problems, as OP seems to be indulging in.
But, yeah, it is kinda like the feminism thing. They've used the cultural angle as well, even if I don't think it holds water. People like using labels and putting everything in boxes. The bigger the box, the less useful it is for organizing (like blaming a gender) - yet a small box isn't necessarily useful unless you want to exhaust yourself playing hardcore individualist mode.
Labels like jew are also difficult because it's hard to tell if it's meant as race or religion or culture. Rather, it's hard to tell if the label is meant for people that chose to take the label (by adhering to a dogma or behaving by a certain set of standards), or people that had no choice in receiving the label (by being born).
If you wanted to be anti-white but you didn't want to look like a subversive you might say you also were against your own ethnic group too, that would work well.
It's antisemitic to support a people that wants to kill the Jews, have done nothing in seventy years except attempt to kill the Jews, put "we aspire to kill the Jews" in the founding document of their political party, and view their own children as weapons to kill the Jews.
The Palestinians are not victims, they are temporarily embarrassed Nazis.
No, but it could be reasonably argued that it's a bit anti Semitic to support a group (Palestinians) that genuinely wants the destruction of Israel based on its being a Jewish nation.
The flaw with your argument is that these people are as anti-Jew as they are anti-white. They support the Palestinians, they support the BDS movement, they support the mass movement of Muslims to countries that serve as sanctuaries for Jewish communities and oppose any effort to rein in their culture's worst tendencies.... they might be Jews but they aren't "the Jews," no more than Shaun King is representative of all whites.
Various leftist secular Jews are the ones doing this self hating routine.
No one is blaming ALL of the Jews.
What op suggests is merely pointing out that the "my fellow white people" clowns are not actually white people but are actually leftist individuals of a Jewish background pretending to be white.
Yes they are, the national socialists are, the alt-right conspiracists are, the non-jewish socialists are, the non-jewish communists are, the black national socialists are too.
Lots of people blame all of the Jews for the exact same reason they blame all of the whites. All you're doing is supporting their idiotic motte & bailey routine. They sitll embrace a racial theory of history, they still blame jews generally, they still advocate for the removal of jews, and then they say "but not all" and you give them credit where they don't fucking deserve it.
It's not any different from when feminists bitch about men generally, then laugh when you point out 'not all men' and say that they never said all men. Then, of course, some feminist shows her power level and goes "Yes, all men."
It's why I got my flair. Disagreeing with their antisemitism means that I must be a jew.
First of all I want to say that I personally have the courage of conviction to say exactly what I mean. I am not afraid of the optics to say non politically correct or offensive truths. I have previously said that I think women being able to vote is one of the reasons for the decline of western civilization and I still stand by it.
I don't hide behind a motte-bailey scheme and I don't enable them either.
When I said no one is blaming ALL the Jews I meant in the context of this thread. No individual here was making the claim that every single Jewish individual is guilty or needs to be removed or anything to that degree.
The argument that the op makes is pretty clear. Op doesn't blame all Jewish individuals but rather points out that there are disproportionate amount of secular leftist Jews pushing globalism and woke ideology under the guise of "my fellow white" people.
I have made it clear what my stance is in other comments in this thread.
But I will reiterate them again for you.
I can see that not all Jews are good and also that not all Jews are bad.
I can see that there is a disproportionate amount of secular leftist Jews pushing globalism and woke ideology. They are not the only ones doing this.
White women, Brahmin Indians and the CCP are also trying to push globalism and woke ideology in the west.
I'm not saying your intent is to serve as a motte and bailey, just that you are when you say "No one is blaming ALL of the Jews". They really are. And I think OP is "hiding his power level".
To be fair you could also be a shabbos goy.
And you could be a faggot, but that's not why I judge you.
I blame jewish culture for a lot of problems. I can't give a clear and rigid definition for it, nor could I for any other culture. I have yet to git that gud. If I were to try defining it, I'd have to go over stereotypes and their values, which I don't think most people would receive that kind of argument well. I feel comfortable using it because I don't use it like a magic wand to explain problems, as OP seems to be indulging in.
But, yeah, it is kinda like the feminism thing. They've used the cultural angle as well, even if I don't think it holds water. People like using labels and putting everything in boxes. The bigger the box, the less useful it is for organizing (like blaming a gender) - yet a small box isn't necessarily useful unless you want to exhaust yourself playing hardcore individualist mode.
Labels like jew are also difficult because it's hard to tell if it's meant as race or religion or culture. Rather, it's hard to tell if the label is meant for people that chose to take the label (by adhering to a dogma or behaving by a certain set of standards), or people that had no choice in receiving the label (by being born).
These all used to be synonymous, and not just for jews but for everyone.
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If you wanted to be anti-white but you didn't want to look like a subversive you might say you also were against your own ethnic group too, that would work well.
IT DOESNT HAVE TO BE THE TRUTH.
So, it's anti semitic to not support Israel then?
It's antisemitic to support a people that wants to kill the Jews, have done nothing in seventy years except attempt to kill the Jews, put "we aspire to kill the Jews" in the founding document of their political party, and view their own children as weapons to kill the Jews.
The Palestinians are not victims, they are temporarily embarrassed Nazis.
By that argument, BLM also has a defensible point.
They lost a war trying to install a Nazi war criminal as President of All-Palestine.
No, but it could be reasonably argued that it's a bit anti Semitic to support a group (Palestinians) that genuinely wants the destruction of Israel based on its being a Jewish nation.