45% of queer men are backing trump
(www.dailywire.com)
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I expect that is not actually this high of a percentage but lets face it, if you are a white male you are getting screwed by the system even if you are gay. Gay/bisexual man are just one step bellow white straight man in their insane victimhood pyramid. Thing is that there are a lot of gay man that like manly things and appreciate manly culture that got screwed by the SJW feminist types that used them as a prop in their insanity.
That's what happens when you start claiming that cross dressers are "transgender".
I never understood this thinking
I just wanna dress like a trap man....
"If I wear a skirt, my gender changes!", said the retard.
If you wanna dress up like a trap, more power to you.
I think that's part of the reason why it might be higher than people expect. When you segregate approval by gender, the divisions are startling. For example, why were there statics that Trump had 20% approval among blacks? Because when blacks are broken down by gender, black men give Trump a 45% approval rating, and black women give Trump a 2% approval rating.
Trump represents a kind of brash, confident, masculinity. He embodies a confident strong-man. Men who might be attracted to that masculinity. He effectively has an edge with some gays. Black men have had genuinely toxic forms of masculinity being thrown in their face for decades now, and Trump is just a less toxic form of what they're used to.
On the other hand, the people Trump does worst with are entitled and privileged women who see the state as their current protector, while they themselves are surrounded by weak men. They want security in the form of more provisions by their sugar daddy, which is what the government effectively becomes. Upper-middle-class unmarried suburban white women embody that privilege, but so do all economic levels of black women due to racial protection racketeering by Democrats.
Neither understand that the government can't be a good provider, and what they need more than anything is a strong man for themselves. The only way that can happen is if Trump breaks the dependency and entitlement system they are used to, so that men can step in and take their natural place as providers.
This kind of confirms by suspicions that something has gone horribly wrong in they gay community, and that a swath of gay men aren't gay, but are actually straight men who have been conditioned to have a warped understanding of how to value themselves, and have tried to embody femininity to the point of homosexuality as a way to give themselves social and sexual value.
It's a long argument to explain, but to summarize it: straight men find femininity attractive. Gay men find masculinity attractive. If a gay man finds femininity attractive, he may not be as gay as the thinks.
As a result, I think there's a swath of genuine masculine attracted gays that find a masculine persona like Trump attractive, even without him being a provider to them. I'd argue that if it weren't for the amount of psychological abuse and conditioning in gay communities that promotes anti-Trump propaganda as a moral & social value, and if it weren't for the fact that there were a swath of the gay community that was made up of confused straight men, most of the gay male community would be supportive of Trump.
But women totally want what's best for us.
Didn't a majority of white women voters vote Republican in 2016? I don't think it's women so much as black women specifically.
Yes. There was a ton of REEEEEEEing about it at the time.
And if you notice the last few months, there's been a lot of articles like this one trying to convince everyone that those same female voters suddenly love Biden and hate Trump.
The polling shows Biden is now +10 on the white female vote.
Also, these figures are deceptive, because if you look at them, those female voters were mostly elderly. Young women, regardless of education, financial status or any other grouping are hard left because they firmly believe women are superior.
That's giving them a little too much credit. They believe whatever social media tells them to believe.
Does narcissism need to be taught?
decline of western civilisation matches women being given the vote
Everyone wants what's best for themselves. Killing all men in a gendercide is not good for anyone.
I do not think they find femininity attractive as much as they settle for feminine guys. There was an episode in True Blood where the sister of the gay black dude was at a party with her brother and was saying something like "I'm watching my brother hit on the straightest guy here". And I think that is the life of the average gay guy, they are attractive my manly men and they strive to be manly but many of them are not in fact manly and they simply settle do to their limited options.
I think that just re-enforces my point, and it's part of my larger argument about the evolutionary purpose of gays.
Gay men are attracted to masculine men. But why are gay men effeminate? Because gay men are attempting to attract masculine men, who are typically straight, and attracted to femininity.
So what kind of gay man is attracted to femininity? A straight one. That's my concern. Low status straight men, being effeminate to gain status and value, and still being attracted to femininity.
I dunno about the gay population, but I think that you've identified the biggest driver in the "trans" population. There is no other way for them to be superior to women. Their entire psychology is oriented around women, but they feel defeated and disconnected.
The only way to meet their need to master women, is to become one - because only women are allowed to control womanhood.
It's not a far off thing to consider. If you feminize men, who already idolize women innately to some degree, and you tell them that women have innate value and men have no innate value, the fastest way for a low status man to gain value is to put on a dress and call himself a woman.
Yeah. It's a forever-alone style sexual union. A sexual union played out in one body, because there's no ther way for them. Or because it seems like a better, more atonomous way.
Whoa there pardner. That's crazy talk for "ya ain't born that way, you chose it and with some contact with the business end o' a cattle prod you can go back to being the kind of citizen you otter be."
Seriously, that is just plain weird. I mean really weird. Like /pol/ on bad acid weird.
I don't think it is. I think that there's actually lots of regular gay people who are gay, and that homosexuality serves a vital evolutionary purpose.
I think the problem is that some straight men are being effectively abused by social institutions.
Holy crap that linked tweet from PinkNews:
Queer men to forgo their morals this November with a thumping 45 per cent vowing to back Donald Trump
I've yet to be given a sufficient explanation of why this matters (hint: that's because it doesn't).
Polls in general are useless, and approval polls especially so. Republicans always think they are doing better with blacks for example, because of the polls they see, which always show rising approval among black males and such, but it never actually translates into votes.
The only polls that are even close to trustworthy are exit polls, and even they should be held with suspicion.
They are useless for predicting voting, however it is relevant on a cultural level. You would expect that gays to vote monolithic but despite all the media bias and indoctrination about how republican are all homophobic there is an incredible good number of them that are at least seeing thru the lies and thinking for themselves. This is good news.
trying to smear Trump followers as arse bandits now
so 45% of 2% = who gives a fuck
I doubt they like the anti man rhetoric not to mention they are probably more involved in to the manly men characters then straight dudes. I bet feminism has ruined more movies and games from their perspective then for the rest.
Every movie/show/game/etc being about how precious some waifu is, is boring. Every movie/show/game/etc being about "she's not your typical princess, and she doesn't need a man" is both boring to the point of worthlessness, and annoying.
I don't really play games, watch movies, watch tv, etc, any more. It's all retro shit for me. At least Aragorn's relationship with Arwen makes sense.
I'm not watching a "Dune" remake, where the writer is strutting about all proud that "his" Bene Gesserit are "less space nun, more warrior princess". Go fuck your feminist self, dude.
A few recent events has made me hopeful that someone will reign him in. I just am going to check before I see it. If all he wants to do is up their personal intensity, I don't count that too badly.
OTOH, the deepest irony, is that part of Herbert's ideology was that women are more human than men. He made male "heroes" because people want to read about male characters, but if you think about it, women are basically the ones deciding what humanity ends up doing - most of the time in Dune.
His entire point, was that women are more capable of desisting from the passions that drive men. (I think he was wrong, I think women just have different passions.) And so, they were the "true" humans, and destined to lead humanity, because it made them better.
The hack-writers of today may end up making the Benne Gesserit as "weak" as men. XD Hopefully not, though.
Just the fact that it's called LGBT should be an insult to them.