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"Star Trek" Discovery to introduce transgender and non-binary characters (archive.is)
posted 5 years ago by altmehere 5 years ago by altmehere +54 / -0
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– MelisandeScott 43 points 5 years ago +43 / -0

Star Trek's first

Except for when TNG did it almost 30 years ago. Star Trek has been doing edgy "we're so progressive" shit since the 1960's.

I love how these people think the fact they're being "controversial" is the reason people don't watch their show, and not that fact that they're terrible writers and creators.

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– lgbtqwtfbbq 31 points 5 years ago +31 / -0

And that episode was fucking cringe because it was clearly trying to beat viewers over the head with a moral instead of just trying to tell a good story.

Piller noted that, unlike "The Masterpiece Society" and "Ethics" earlier in the fifth season, the writers were not overly concerned about portraying alternative viewpoints. He commented, "I don't think there is another side that's easily supportable. I think that bigotry is bigotry, prejudice is prejudice, and it can be said with all the fervor and belief, but it still comes out as prejudice. I don't know how to make an intolerant person attractive."

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– MelisandeScott 10 points 5 years ago +10 / -0

Very true.

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– jubyeonin 15 points 5 years ago +15 / -0

I remember this episode. It was weird.

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– Norenia 12 points 5 years ago +12 / -0

I’ve seen quite a bit of TNG, but don’t recall that episode. That said, the idea of a society without gender would only come about if there was an undeniably biological position for it. The Asari aren’t female, they’re a monogendered race that took form much like human females (hence why humans will refer to them in feminine manner), and have their own unique method of reproduction.

Hell, lately, a society like that seems more like the left’s aim.

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– Knife-TotingRat 11 points 5 years ago +11 / -0

Look, this is exactly why it's nonsense to conflate "gender" (a LINGUISTICS term loosely based on secondary sexual features) and "sex" (a noun that refers to biological reproduction).

There is such a thing as hermaphrodites, and for some species, that's normal. There are also true asexuals, that reproduce without sexual recombination of genes.

I give you the fictional example of the Namekian. They don't have sexes, and don't engage in the act of sex. They reproduce at will, basically. But they all appear "masculine" to human eyes because of their body shape and deep voices. But they're not "male" or "female". Technically, Piccolo is an "it", but he's big and strong, and I'd call him a "he" just to be polite.

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– Steampunk_Moustache 10 points 5 years ago +10 / -0

I binge watched all of TNG just a few months ago, and that episode sticks out like a sore thumb.

The entire crew is just totally on board with violating a species' right to govern themselves. I can't think of a single other instance in the whole series where that happens. Normally there is ALWAYS some kind of conflicted discussion over whether to intervene, over what gives them the right to impose their morality on others, but not in this episode.

It's one of the few episodes in the show that is propaganda first, entertainment second.

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