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Israel renews military attacks on Gaza (archive.ph)
posted 2 months ago by Mpetey123 2 months ago by Mpetey123 +63 / -0
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– horstshort 17 points 2 months ago +18 / -1

Beyond the Sinai? Beyond the Golan? Beyond the immediate trans-Jordan? No.

But they've already moved beyond the Golan heights. And they've occupied large parts of Lebanon in the past and then were subsequently kicked out.

Israeli already gave up the Sinai once and it worked--they've had peace with Egypt for more than 40 years.

You phrase that like they did it voluntarily and weren't forced to do so.

So calling it 'batshit crazy hyperbole' is a bit... hyperbolic don't you think?

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– KeeperOfTheGate -9 points 2 months ago +2 / -11

But they've already moved beyond the Golan heights. And they've occupied large parts of Lebanon in the past and then were subsequently kicked out.

Quoted from my OP: "Syria (Mt Hermon / Druze areas), and maybe even Lebanon"

You phrase that like they did it voluntarily and weren't forced to do so.

Yes, the Egypt–Israel peace treaty of 1979.

So calling it 'batshit crazy hyperbole' is a bit... hyperbolic don't you think?

No, saying that Israel wants to annex everything from the Nile to the Euphrates is stupider than batshit crazy. Anyone who thinks that Israel wants to control Cairo, Aleppo, Damascus, Amman, Najaf, and Karbala and the 10s of millions of Arab Muslims in those regions is willfully ignorant.

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– horstshort 11 points 2 months ago +11 / -0

No, saying that Israel wants to annex everything from the Nile to the Euphrates is stupider than batshit crazy. Anyone who thinks that Israel wants to control Cairo, Aleppo, Damascus, Amman, Najaf, and Karbala and the 10s of millions of Arab Muslims in those regions is willfully ignorant.

Israel doesn't even want to control Palestinians. They want to get rid of them. It's called ethnic cleansing and they've been doing it since 1948. Though to be fair they haven't managed to repeat their success of 1948 so far.

Greater Israel isn't a random conspiracy theory that someone pulled out of their ass. When you look at the fact that Israel has been constantly trying to expand since 1948 it doesn't sound any crazier than a bunch of Jews settling in Arab land only to violently displace the natives and using unconditional US support to wage constant war on their neighbors.

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– KeeperOfTheGate -3 points 2 months ago +1 / -4

Greater Israel isn't a random conspiracy theory that someone pulled out of their ass.

Read what I've said, consistently, since my first post.

Israel nationalists having expansionistic goals (specifically, southern Syria, Trans-Jordan, Sinai, etc.) is not a conspiracy theory.

I've also out that these are minority viewpoints and a very large chunk of Israeli society would even withdraw entirely from the West Bank.

"Greater Israel" meaning the Nile to the Euphrates, willfully ignorant and foolish conspiracy theory.

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– horstshort 6 points 2 months ago +6 / -0

I've also out that these are minority viewpoints and a very large chunk of Israeli society would even withdraw entirely from the West Bank.

Then why is Israel still occupying the West Bank and Gaza? Why is Netanyahu still in power? It's irrelevant what 'society' would do if they don't do it. The only thing that matters is what is actually being done. Reality trumps wishful thinking.

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