This is not what Free Speech even means, and I'm sick and tired of everyone acquiescing to the Left's narrative that "Free Speech" means "Saying literally anything without any possible consequence, including defamation, conspiracy, harassment, fraud, incitement, disorderly conduct, and assault".
No. "Freedom of Speech" means "No Government Viewpoint Discrimination". "Freedom of Speech" doesn't mean that all speech can't be regulated. It means viewpoints and opinions are not regulated by the government.
Yes, you can be a "Free Speech Absolutist". Do you know what that isn't? Intentionally disseminating private information in order to incite harassment and violence against your victims.
Principles actually mean a lot, because when it comes to "you winning" the next excuse, is going to be you destroying your own side because you've decided that "you" doesn't mean "us", and "winning" is another 100 years down the line when you personally have absolute control.
If you are operating solely on a Melian Dialogue, you will become a psychopath that needs to be put down by your own side in order for anything to actually end, let alone 'win'.
Yes, in this case speech is merely the means or vehicle by which to commit several torts and/or crimes. It's not opinion, argument
or creative expression. Its only purpose here is to facilitate direct harm.
Would I love to have absolute freedom of speech? Yes.
Can we trust leftists with it? No.
So we don't have it, and we have to wield our power to remove leftists from power at every opportunity, and fuck them over, just like they've done to us.
We play the game by the rules we have, not the rules we wish we had.
I don't care.
Principles mean nothing unless you WIN.
When you lose with dignity, you LOSE.
Guess who taught us that?
YOU.
So fuck off.
This is not what Free Speech even means, and I'm sick and tired of everyone acquiescing to the Left's narrative that "Free Speech" means "Saying literally anything without any possible consequence, including defamation, conspiracy, harassment, fraud, incitement, disorderly conduct, and assault".
No. "Freedom of Speech" means "No Government Viewpoint Discrimination". "Freedom of Speech" doesn't mean that all speech can't be regulated. It means viewpoints and opinions are not regulated by the government.
Yes, you can be a "Free Speech Absolutist". Do you know what that isn't? Intentionally disseminating private information in order to incite harassment and violence against your victims.
Principles actually mean a lot, because when it comes to "you winning" the next excuse, is going to be you destroying your own side because you've decided that "you" doesn't mean "us", and "winning" is another 100 years down the line when you personally have absolute control.
If you are operating solely on a Melian Dialogue, you will become a psychopath that needs to be put down by your own side in order for anything to actually end, let alone 'win'.
Yes, in this case speech is merely the means or vehicle by which to commit several torts and/or crimes. It's not opinion, argument or creative expression. Its only purpose here is to facilitate direct harm.
Would I love to have absolute freedom of speech? Yes.
Can we trust leftists with it? No.
So we don't have it, and we have to wield our power to remove leftists from power at every opportunity, and fuck them over, just like they've done to us.
We play the game by the rules we have, not the rules we wish we had.
I hadn't really considered the argument from that angle. You make remarkably good points.
Reddit permabanned people for making fun of Imgur employees.
"Imgur: Even the dog is fat."
It's weird how leaking government data is a literal crime, while doxing is perfectly legal (but a bannable offense on most tech platforms).
because not all of it is equal.
Preeeeety sure libs of TikTok didn’t advocate for violence while this tranny suggested violence against the doge team.