I mean, if that's the way you want to live, I guess. Or you could do what I have done and go to the interview, get the job offer, go back to your own company and say 'This company is going to scalp me for $x, so unless you pay me $y, I am going to leave'. That way you keep your seniority, your benefits, your colleagues, get a raise, and you don't have to fit into a new workplace.
'This company is going to scalp me for $x, so unless you pay me $y, I am going to leave'.
I've seen people try that. It's taken as "extortion" by idiots who had no business making such decisions in the first place, and because they have to maintain the illusion that everyone is expendable. If they wanted to give you a raise, they would have.
"Seniority" won't save you from layoffs. "Benefits" are non-existent. "Colleagues" are little more than LinkedIn contacts.
Well, the way I see it, such a negotiating tactic is no-lose. If your existing company isn't willing to dig deep to retain you, then you take the job. If they are, you get everything you had previously negotiated with the business, plus a raise.
It has worked for me on two different occasions, but you are correct in that it relies on a management structure that understands the value of its people.
The reason why I don't job hop isn't because I feel like a slave to the company I work for, it's because I have squeezed them to keep me. I have a personal relationship with the people above me, so it's a lot easier to negotiate because they have seen the quality of my work. At a new company, you are an unknown, so the employer/employee relationship is a lot more hostile.
I mean, if that's the way you want to live, I guess. Or you could do what I have done and go to the interview, get the job offer, go back to your own company and say 'This company is going to scalp me for $x, so unless you pay me $y, I am going to leave'. That way you keep your seniority, your benefits, your colleagues, get a raise, and you don't have to fit into a new workplace.
I've seen people try that. It's taken as "extortion" by idiots who had no business making such decisions in the first place, and because they have to maintain the illusion that everyone is expendable. If they wanted to give you a raise, they would have.
"Seniority" won't save you from layoffs. "Benefits" are non-existent. "Colleagues" are little more than LinkedIn contacts.
Well, the way I see it, such a negotiating tactic is no-lose. If your existing company isn't willing to dig deep to retain you, then you take the job. If they are, you get everything you had previously negotiated with the business, plus a raise.
It has worked for me on two different occasions, but you are correct in that it relies on a management structure that understands the value of its people.
The reason why I don't job hop isn't because I feel like a slave to the company I work for, it's because I have squeezed them to keep me. I have a personal relationship with the people above me, so it's a lot easier to negotiate because they have seen the quality of my work. At a new company, you are an unknown, so the employer/employee relationship is a lot more hostile.