I really liked how Irredeemable did it. In it, their expy for Superman had a secret identity where he works at a radio show, and the expy for Lois Lane walks in on him when he's changing into his superhero costume. Does she argue with him "oh my god, you kept this secret from me blah blah"? No, she runs into the office and tells everyone that whats-his-face is the Plutonian, because all she cared about was her career. Then, since they were on air, the host immediately starts with "breaking news, the secret identity of the Plutonian is-" and as this is happening the Plutonian destroys the broadcasting equipment before more of the message can get out. The crew are terrified by this, pleading to not hurt them. To which he replies "Hurt you? How can I SAVE you? You just announced to the world you know who I am. Every villain I ever faced will hunt you and your families down to torture them for any possible information you might have on me!"
The comic really went off the rails, but it was an interesting concept that did the 'evil Superman' thing better than most. He just wanted to be loved, but after fucking up so badly he got an entire town's population of children killed, he had a nervous breakdown and everything snowballed into him full chaotic retard.
No, she runs into the office and tells everyone that whats-his-face is the Plutonian, because all she cared about was her career. Then, since they were on air, the host immediately starts with "breaking news, the secret identity of the Plutonian is-" and as this is happening the Plutonian destroys the broadcasting equipment before more of the message can get out. The crew are terrified by this, pleading to not hurt them. To which he replies "Hurt you? How can I SAVE you? You just announced to the world you know who I am. Every villain I ever faced will hunt you and your families down to torture them for any possible information you might have on me!"
Which is why Tony snaps in the end, people being shitty and his powers meaning he can hear EVERY-FUCKING-THING ever said on the planet. It would be like having not only the worst parts of social media beamed directly into your head, but specifically the parts whining about you never being good enough. Do that to someone with beyond Superman levels of power and it's no fucking surprise he loses it.
I really hate how hard that series tries to paint him as well irredeemable and that we should cheer for everything awful that happens to him in the end.
Because his background was horrible, his existence was misery, and it had no end. And the people he was giving his everything to were ungrateful and trying to ruin him constantly, as shown by my favorite line:
Is that how this works? I made one stupid mistake, and now I have nothing?
The story treats him as if his mistakes as irredeemably bad marks against his character, while everyone else gets to have redemption arcs where they are barely repentant or make excuses for the evil they do. Shit the one guy literally condemned countless planets to destruction for a promise evil aliens might help kill him one day.
Its very showing how the writer's, and a lot of other peoples, morality works. Its all relative based on how you want to frame it, how much you like them, and if it satisfies your justice boner.
People in general were just really fucking stupid in Irredeemable, like the guy who just murders one of the other superpowered siblings because he didn't like him and had been told the siblings shared power. Except it turned out the one he murdered was the source so now the world is even more fucked because it was one of the few people left alive who could still give the Plutonian a fight.
Its really telling how good the Plutonian and a few others are as a character, and a few really good moments, that anyone cares about the story because it is filled with the most retarded, unlikeable characters possible otherwise.
Though I think Invincible is miles worse in that regard so its baffling to me that that is the one they chose to adapt and managed to get super popular.
I really liked how Irredeemable did it. In it, their expy for Superman had a secret identity where he works at a radio show, and the expy for Lois Lane walks in on him when he's changing into his superhero costume. Does she argue with him "oh my god, you kept this secret from me blah blah"? No, she runs into the office and tells everyone that whats-his-face is the Plutonian, because all she cared about was her career. Then, since they were on air, the host immediately starts with "breaking news, the secret identity of the Plutonian is-" and as this is happening the Plutonian destroys the broadcasting equipment before more of the message can get out. The crew are terrified by this, pleading to not hurt them. To which he replies "Hurt you? How can I SAVE you? You just announced to the world you know who I am. Every villain I ever faced will hunt you and your families down to torture them for any possible information you might have on me!"
The comic really went off the rails, but it was an interesting concept that did the 'evil Superman' thing better than most. He just wanted to be loved, but after fucking up so badly he got an entire town's population of children killed, he had a nervous breakdown and everything snowballed into him full chaotic retard.
Which is why Tony snaps in the end, people being shitty and his powers meaning he can hear EVERY-FUCKING-THING ever said on the planet. It would be like having not only the worst parts of social media beamed directly into your head, but specifically the parts whining about you never being good enough. Do that to someone with beyond Superman levels of power and it's no fucking surprise he loses it.
I really hate how hard that series tries to paint him as well irredeemable and that we should cheer for everything awful that happens to him in the end.
Because his background was horrible, his existence was misery, and it had no end. And the people he was giving his everything to were ungrateful and trying to ruin him constantly, as shown by my favorite line:
The story treats him as if his mistakes as irredeemably bad marks against his character, while everyone else gets to have redemption arcs where they are barely repentant or make excuses for the evil they do. Shit the one guy literally condemned countless planets to destruction for a promise evil aliens might help kill him one day.
Its very showing how the writer's, and a lot of other peoples, morality works. Its all relative based on how you want to frame it, how much you like them, and if it satisfies your justice boner.
People in general were just really fucking stupid in Irredeemable, like the guy who just murders one of the other superpowered siblings because he didn't like him and had been told the siblings shared power. Except it turned out the one he murdered was the source so now the world is even more fucked because it was one of the few people left alive who could still give the Plutonian a fight.
Its really telling how good the Plutonian and a few others are as a character, and a few really good moments, that anyone cares about the story because it is filled with the most retarded, unlikeable characters possible otherwise.
Though I think Invincible is miles worse in that regard so its baffling to me that that is the one they chose to adapt and managed to get super popular.