Look at youtuber like Mutahar. He may be an indian who is actually more fluent at English than me, but can you say he is assimilated? And even if he continues his bloodline, his offspring will never think like white native does due to the familial culture and circumstance. This is why academics get lined in the wall. They are useless insufferable nerdlingers unable to understand if the idea is inapplicable in the real world, yet too arrogant to admit the mistakes they made.
He may be an indian who is actually more fluent at English than me, but can you say he is assimilated?
I have no idea who he is, so that would have to be a personal investigation.
his offspring will never think like white native does due to the familial culture and circumstance.
That's not really true. Again, after 3 generations (so long as there is continual integration), the population not thinking about themselves as independent.
No one would say the descendants of the Germans who immigrated during the 2nd Great Awakening are foreigners.
That's not really true. Again, after 3 generations (so long as there is continual integration), the population not thinking about themselves as independent.
But you don't provide any evidence or any success story of integration of this. If you have no proof about it, why even bother bringing it up? What you suggest is hypothetical.
No one would say the descendants of the Germans who immigrated during the 2nd Great Awakening are foreigners.
Yeah because Germans are white and generally have shared beliefs as anglo-westerners do. Your whole premise of argument is flawed if you have to bring up the germans to this conversation like you don't even understand why people have problem with multi-culturalism.
It's like the pet-owner want to search for well-behaved dogs for his toy poodle for playmates, and you the clueless guy suggests pitbull or staffordshire to pair with the small dog. I mean come the fuck on, guy. This is why I have problem with your shit pilpul, you frankly aren't even that good at. You make all these arguments and rambles on but can't even get the basic premise of the problem.
I don't provide proof because this is an internet forum not peer-reviewed journal. I'm sorry if that's something you've literally never seen before, but everything I've seen on integration, immigration, and de-radicalization agrees that the 3rd generation of an immigrant family will have point where they will have to chose to fully assimilate, or completely reject assimilation and go back to the old ways. It's why we actually see more crime and terrorism from 2nd and 3rd generation immigrants than 1st.
Why am I now required to provide sources, when no one around me is willing to provides source material to claims of: "It is physically impossible for any African descendent person in any epoch of history to ever be capable of any civilizational development ever, even given infinite time". That's an insane claim that stands directly in the face of all known scientific and historical evidence, but I'm supposed to take it on faith 100% of the time.
Germans are white and generally have shared beliefs as anglo-westerners do
Not according to the Benjamin Franklin quote that WN's keep throwing at me. Many of them were Catholic, and non-British, which made them non-White. The English define White differently than the Americans, and Franklin was using the English concept.
I understand why people have a problem with multi-culturalism. I have a problem with multi-culturalism. I oppose it. That's why I talk about integration and assimilation.
You have a problem with my arguments because you are not willing to accept any of the same premises. Your ideology requires you to talk past me.
It would be no different then me talking to a Feminist. A Feminist would never accept that men are inferior humans who must be controlled for the prosperity of women. I can't argue that men should be treated fairly, or that marriage is a good thing under that premise. If I tell a Feminist that women are happier and more prosperous in marriage, like you, they would tell me that is completely hypothetical and unevidenced and dismiss it out of hand.
Look at youtuber like Mutahar. He may be an indian who is actually more fluent at English than me, but can you say he is assimilated? And even if he continues his bloodline, his offspring will never think like white native does due to the familial culture and circumstance. This is why academics get lined in the wall. They are useless insufferable nerdlingers unable to understand if the idea is inapplicable in the real world, yet too arrogant to admit the mistakes they made.
"Real multiculturalism has never been tried!"
I have no idea who he is, so that would have to be a personal investigation.
That's not really true. Again, after 3 generations (so long as there is continual integration), the population not thinking about themselves as independent.
No one would say the descendants of the Germans who immigrated during the 2nd Great Awakening are foreigners.
But you don't provide any evidence or any success story of integration of this. If you have no proof about it, why even bother bringing it up? What you suggest is hypothetical.
Yeah because Germans are white and generally have shared beliefs as anglo-westerners do. Your whole premise of argument is flawed if you have to bring up the germans to this conversation like you don't even understand why people have problem with multi-culturalism.
It's like the pet-owner want to search for well-behaved dogs for his toy poodle for playmates, and you the clueless guy suggests pitbull or staffordshire to pair with the small dog. I mean come the fuck on, guy. This is why I have problem with your shit pilpul, you frankly aren't even that good at. You make all these arguments and rambles on but can't even get the basic premise of the problem.
I don't provide proof because this is an internet forum not peer-reviewed journal. I'm sorry if that's something you've literally never seen before, but everything I've seen on integration, immigration, and de-radicalization agrees that the 3rd generation of an immigrant family will have point where they will have to chose to fully assimilate, or completely reject assimilation and go back to the old ways. It's why we actually see more crime and terrorism from 2nd and 3rd generation immigrants than 1st.
Why am I now required to provide sources, when no one around me is willing to provides source material to claims of: "It is physically impossible for any African descendent person in any epoch of history to ever be capable of any civilizational development ever, even given infinite time". That's an insane claim that stands directly in the face of all known scientific and historical evidence, but I'm supposed to take it on faith 100% of the time.
Not according to the Benjamin Franklin quote that WN's keep throwing at me. Many of them were Catholic, and non-British, which made them non-White. The English define White differently than the Americans, and Franklin was using the English concept.
I understand why people have a problem with multi-culturalism. I have a problem with multi-culturalism. I oppose it. That's why I talk about integration and assimilation.
You have a problem with my arguments because you are not willing to accept any of the same premises. Your ideology requires you to talk past me.
It would be no different then me talking to a Feminist. A Feminist would never accept that men are inferior humans who must be controlled for the prosperity of women. I can't argue that men should be treated fairly, or that marriage is a good thing under that premise. If I tell a Feminist that women are happier and more prosperous in marriage, like you, they would tell me that is completely hypothetical and unevidenced and dismiss it out of hand.