I assume you're referring to how Job realized his own limitations in understanding God? If not, what are you meaning?
If you're meaning what I think you are, it's not analogous to the conversation. Scripture isn't infinite. Scripture is designed to bring us closer to God, how to live righteous lives, and live according to God's wishes. God is infinite, though. Realizing the totality of truth (or God), as humans, is impossible.
However, you're making a relatively common fallacious argument with regard to human failings. You're suggesting (if I assume your argument correctly) that because we don't know everything, that because we're mortal, finite, and imperfect, that because there will always be doubt about our actions being in accordance with God (given our limited understanding), that therefore we are forbidden to speak and act, for fear of transgressing against truth (God).
That is a fallacious argument, and no one in the Bible, even Jesus or God, advocate for that position. Furthermore, it's an inherently destructive philosophy, crushing all who believe it into pacifism, moral cowardice, inaction, and inevitable suicide, due to fear of any misstepped action or word.
No, I'm saying certain things only have value by doing them by their own sake. I'm not even talking about human failings, nor pacifism.
You are extrapolating my arguments in order to defend that tradthot, that's my issue. If you value her and think of her as truth you don't need to defend her. If she is geniune we'll know and there really was no damage done, but if she was an oportunist born again christian you are carrying water and giving her unecessary exposure, at worst she might be a subversive leftist.
It has happened historically time and time again. Not only you are allowing her to advocate as a Real Gamer™ but as a True Christian™.
If she ended up as neo Lieberman or right wing Sarkeesian. Do you think it would legitimize right wingers in nerd media or do the oposite, all while her christian circle is subverted?
You are extrapolating my arguments in order to defend that tradthot, that's my issue.
I'm not necessarily defending her, I'm opening up the conversation to the larger issue at hand. How can we judge a reformed Christian if they act like a Christian? Do we presume to know people's hearts? We can judge people's hearts, if their actions betray their statements (i.e fruit of the poisonous tree), but if they act Christian, and their works are good, then why cast aspersions on them?
I think you're assuming a lot about my feelings on her. I only know of her a little bit based on who I used to follow in the culture war, people I no longer follow, because they betrayed the fact that they'd rather remain silent on matters of importance and make more money, than be censored and be poor, and they also keep espousing the false idea that what we're seeing is due to incompetence, and not malice. I don't know enough about Melonie Mac to pass judgment on her either way. I'm not attempting to simp, white knight, carry water, or anything else for her. I love philosophy and exploration of ideas, which is why I was attempting to pursue the conversation to the larger issues.
I agree with you that there have been, and exist many, Christians who were false converts (conversos), who said they were Christian, but weren't.
Since you want to discuss Melonie Mac specifically, what has she done to warrant extra scrutiny? Truly, I don't know enough about her one way or the other. Just curious if you know any specifics.
It's Job's parable tho
I assume you're referring to how Job realized his own limitations in understanding God? If not, what are you meaning?
If you're meaning what I think you are, it's not analogous to the conversation. Scripture isn't infinite. Scripture is designed to bring us closer to God, how to live righteous lives, and live according to God's wishes. God is infinite, though. Realizing the totality of truth (or God), as humans, is impossible.
However, you're making a relatively common fallacious argument with regard to human failings. You're suggesting (if I assume your argument correctly) that because we don't know everything, that because we're mortal, finite, and imperfect, that because there will always be doubt about our actions being in accordance with God (given our limited understanding), that therefore we are forbidden to speak and act, for fear of transgressing against truth (God).
That is a fallacious argument, and no one in the Bible, even Jesus or God, advocate for that position. Furthermore, it's an inherently destructive philosophy, crushing all who believe it into pacifism, moral cowardice, inaction, and inevitable suicide, due to fear of any misstepped action or word.
No, I'm saying certain things only have value by doing them by their own sake. I'm not even talking about human failings, nor pacifism.
You are extrapolating my arguments in order to defend that tradthot, that's my issue. If you value her and think of her as truth you don't need to defend her. If she is geniune we'll know and there really was no damage done, but if she was an oportunist born again christian you are carrying water and giving her unecessary exposure, at worst she might be a subversive leftist.
It has happened historically time and time again. Not only you are allowing her to advocate as a Real Gamer™ but as a True Christian™.
If she ended up as neo Lieberman or right wing Sarkeesian. Do you think it would legitimize right wingers in nerd media or do the oposite, all while her christian circle is subverted?
I'm not necessarily defending her, I'm opening up the conversation to the larger issue at hand. How can we judge a reformed Christian if they act like a Christian? Do we presume to know people's hearts? We can judge people's hearts, if their actions betray their statements (i.e fruit of the poisonous tree), but if they act Christian, and their works are good, then why cast aspersions on them?
I think you're assuming a lot about my feelings on her. I only know of her a little bit based on who I used to follow in the culture war, people I no longer follow, because they betrayed the fact that they'd rather remain silent on matters of importance and make more money, than be censored and be poor, and they also keep espousing the false idea that what we're seeing is due to incompetence, and not malice. I don't know enough about Melonie Mac to pass judgment on her either way. I'm not attempting to simp, white knight, carry water, or anything else for her. I love philosophy and exploration of ideas, which is why I was attempting to pursue the conversation to the larger issues.
I agree with you that there have been, and exist many, Christians who were false converts (conversos), who said they were Christian, but weren't.
Since you want to discuss Melonie Mac specifically, what has she done to warrant extra scrutiny? Truly, I don't know enough about her one way or the other. Just curious if you know any specifics.
I talk about her because the post is about her
You know what they say about complacency then