No, I'm saying certain things only have value by doing them by their own sake. I'm not even talking about human failings, nor pacifism.
You are extrapolating my arguments in order to defend that tradthot, that's my issue. If you value her and think of her as truth you don't need to defend her. If she is geniune we'll know and there really was no damage done, but if she was an oportunist born again christian you are carrying water and giving her unecessary exposure, at worst she might be a subversive leftist.
It has happened historically time and time again. Not only you are allowing her to advocate as a Real Gamer™ but as a True Christian™.
If she ended up as neo Lieberman or right wing Sarkeesian. Do you think it would legitimize right wingers in nerd media or do the oposite, all while her christian circle is subverted?
You are extrapolating my arguments in order to defend that tradthot, that's my issue.
I'm not necessarily defending her, I'm opening up the conversation to the larger issue at hand. How can we judge a reformed Christian if they act like a Christian? Do we presume to know people's hearts? We can judge people's hearts, if their actions betray their statements (i.e fruit of the poisonous tree), but if they act Christian, and their works are good, then why cast aspersions on them?
I think you're assuming a lot about my feelings on her. I only know of her a little bit based on who I used to follow in the culture war, people I no longer follow, because they betrayed the fact that they'd rather remain silent on matters of importance and make more money, than be censored and be poor, and they also keep espousing the false idea that what we're seeing is due to incompetence, and not malice. I don't know enough about Melonie Mac to pass judgment on her either way. I'm not attempting to simp, white knight, carry water, or anything else for her. I love philosophy and exploration of ideas, which is why I was attempting to pursue the conversation to the larger issues.
I agree with you that there have been, and exist many, Christians who were false converts (conversos), who said they were Christian, but weren't.
Since you want to discuss Melonie Mac specifically, what has she done to warrant extra scrutiny? Truly, I don't know enough about her one way or the other. Just curious if you know any specifics.
From 2008 to 2020, I read the news for several hours every day. It became so predictable I could figure out what everyone would say, what they would do (or not do), just by reading the headlines and a few details in the article. I stopped reading the news after that, and in conjunction with learning about conspiracy theories, I'm well versed on what's happened, what's happening, and what's going to happen, who is involved, who it will affect, and why.
I've also largely separated myself from the entire "culture war" sphere after giving them undue credit, in the hopes that they'd figure things out. They didn't, and haven't. I used to follow Nerdrotic, Heelvsbabyface, Ryan Kennel, and a few others, for years. They kept ascribing the culture rot to incompetence, and not the true motive: malice. They kept pushing normie tier conservative ideals. I only know of Melonie Mac ancillarilly through them, and it's minor info.
Why do you expect anyone to know about everyone, everywhere on earth, lest you say they are "complacent"?
You know she hangs out with Critical drinker, Mauler, Nerdrotic and participates in their livestreams, right?
I'm actually agreeing with you and calling her a malicious subverter
I questioned Milo Yiannopoulos becoming a born again christian after saying he being groomed was ok.
Why do you expect anyone to know about everyone, everywhere on earth, lest you say they are "complacent"?
I don't know why you think your opinion is worth anything if you admit you don't know anything about the topic, instead you are just derailing the conversation to empty platitudes
No, I'm saying certain things only have value by doing them by their own sake. I'm not even talking about human failings, nor pacifism.
You are extrapolating my arguments in order to defend that tradthot, that's my issue. If you value her and think of her as truth you don't need to defend her. If she is geniune we'll know and there really was no damage done, but if she was an oportunist born again christian you are carrying water and giving her unecessary exposure, at worst she might be a subversive leftist.
It has happened historically time and time again. Not only you are allowing her to advocate as a Real Gamer™ but as a True Christian™.
If she ended up as neo Lieberman or right wing Sarkeesian. Do you think it would legitimize right wingers in nerd media or do the oposite, all while her christian circle is subverted?
I'm not necessarily defending her, I'm opening up the conversation to the larger issue at hand. How can we judge a reformed Christian if they act like a Christian? Do we presume to know people's hearts? We can judge people's hearts, if their actions betray their statements (i.e fruit of the poisonous tree), but if they act Christian, and their works are good, then why cast aspersions on them?
I think you're assuming a lot about my feelings on her. I only know of her a little bit based on who I used to follow in the culture war, people I no longer follow, because they betrayed the fact that they'd rather remain silent on matters of importance and make more money, than be censored and be poor, and they also keep espousing the false idea that what we're seeing is due to incompetence, and not malice. I don't know enough about Melonie Mac to pass judgment on her either way. I'm not attempting to simp, white knight, carry water, or anything else for her. I love philosophy and exploration of ideas, which is why I was attempting to pursue the conversation to the larger issues.
I agree with you that there have been, and exist many, Christians who were false converts (conversos), who said they were Christian, but weren't.
Since you want to discuss Melonie Mac specifically, what has she done to warrant extra scrutiny? Truly, I don't know enough about her one way or the other. Just curious if you know any specifics.
I talk about her because the post is about her
You know what they say about complacency then
Sigh. Okay then, keep your secrets.
From 2008 to 2020, I read the news for several hours every day. It became so predictable I could figure out what everyone would say, what they would do (or not do), just by reading the headlines and a few details in the article. I stopped reading the news after that, and in conjunction with learning about conspiracy theories, I'm well versed on what's happened, what's happening, and what's going to happen, who is involved, who it will affect, and why.
I've also largely separated myself from the entire "culture war" sphere after giving them undue credit, in the hopes that they'd figure things out. They didn't, and haven't. I used to follow Nerdrotic, Heelvsbabyface, Ryan Kennel, and a few others, for years. They kept ascribing the culture rot to incompetence, and not the true motive: malice. They kept pushing normie tier conservative ideals. I only know of Melonie Mac ancillarilly through them, and it's minor info.
Why do you expect anyone to know about everyone, everywhere on earth, lest you say they are "complacent"?
You know she hangs out with Critical drinker, Mauler, Nerdrotic and participates in their livestreams, right?
I'm actually agreeing with you and calling her a malicious subverter
I questioned Milo Yiannopoulos becoming a born again christian after saying he being groomed was ok.
I don't know why you think your opinion is worth anything if you admit you don't know anything about the topic, instead you are just derailing the conversation to empty platitudes