I don't have paid twitter, but if we want to defend palworld, someone has to @grummz and encourage him to ask people to contact nintendo investors.
Nintendo is publicly traded. If dozens of their biggest shareholders start hearing directly from the public that this makes Nintendo look like a villain, and will result in fans swearing off the brand? That's going to get investors involved in telling Nintendo it might be an unwise move to throw such might behind a bruised ego.
"Contact the investors"
"Contact the advertisers"
This is how groups like media matters and SPLC / ADF get things done. We need to wise up. Bitching directly to nintendo isn't going to accomplish anything. Getting the bag-holders riled up will.
Someone with a decent following and twitter blue please @Grummz. Post a link here. I'll like and re-tweet.
someone has to @grummz and encourage him to ask people to contact nintendo investors
Extremely difficult to do when the investors only read and speak Japanese, a language that Google Translate badly butchers on the best of days. One would either need to hire the most dedicated of überweebs, or ideally track down a Japanese person who is fluent in both English and Japanese, in order to properly convey the message they want to send.
Aren't we assuming American's aren't owning the Nintendo stock? and I am sure rich people earning large stakes can afford interpreters.
Our dollar is almost three times their dollar. We can definitely out-buy them at their own stock. We just have to rattle their English speaking sugar daddies.
Yes, because Nintendo isn't listed on the NASDAQ (US stock market), they are listed on the Japan Exchange Group (Japanese stock market). Stemming from that, one could also assume that you need to be not only fluent in the language, but also their laws which can be either stricter or different (or both) compared to dealing with the US stock market.
Furthermore, even if everything was on the up-and-up (read as: greased the right amount of palms), and you did manage to buy enough stock to get in on their investors' meetings, the chances are quite high that you would never get to speak at all because they would rather commit seppuku than let 馬鹿外人 speak on their own turf.
Alright, alternatively, isn't education a standard part of both primary and secondary education in Japan?
I'm not saying all are fluent, but there is probably at least a couple who read twitter and engage with twitter. Who can be @'d, and we have to hope we scare that investor enough to get him to talk to other nintendo investors, and start a buzz amongst themselves.
Is there actual harm in trying? Or are we just lay down and take it bottom bitches?
The only reason Nintendo is doing this to begin with is because Palworld made them look really bad by beating them at their own game. It will be trivial for them to explain this to their shareholders, if they haven't already.
Especially in the interest of preventing future incidents of people trying to do so, as Nintendo's method in the past is to DMCA big names to scare all the little ones into scattering.
Their shareholders will care more about that then looking bad for a brief time, as they always "look bad" when trying to aggressively protect their IPs every other year. But in doing so they continue to be the only real dog on the field and make billions off lackluster products constantly. Its a proven strategy for them.
I don't want to defend their scummy behavior, but that is how their business strategy has worked for a long time now.
Shareholders will care if people tell them they plan to boycott Nintendo over being a bully, Nintendo has no value if it isn't a parent-to-child transgenerational thing. Reduced current and future customers is very scary to investors.
Reduced current and future customers is very scary to investors.
It is, and its equally capable to happen if Nintendo starts having actual competition with its most guaranteed IPs from ex-employees and a legion of journos writing articles denigrating their value by comparison to this silly little game.
I think shareholders will be much more likely to be afraid of that scenario versus "some internet people said we were being mean :( , they might boycott us if we don't start acting right!"
What they are doing is wrong and probably legally wrong too, but you are talking about convincing the most amoral people in a mega corporation to care.
Arguably, Nintendo is reacting because Sony backed Palworld. There's plenty of other monster catch & trains out there-- but Palworld's got Sony behind them, and is a big enough threat for Nintendo to activate their legal team.
There's some cultural issues with the Palworld dev being ex-Nintendo and going against the company that raised him going on, too. Underneath, Sony supporting Palworld is a threat to The Pokemon Company, a Nintendo cash-cow.
The Palworld lawsuit can be viewed as proxy battle in the continuing corporate struggle between Nintendo and Sony, since Nintendo knocking out Palworld keeps Sony from damaging/diluting the Pokemon brand.
Like you point out, a Nintendo win leaves only their (lackluster) products on the market.
I had forgotten that angle but its likely very true. After all, damn near identical games like Coromon and Nexomon are being sold that are far more Pokemon clones than Palworld could ever come close to being. They just didn't make much noise so Nintendo didn't care to even waste time on indie slop like them.
There is a lot of petty nonsense going on behind these decisions, but at the end of it there is still logical soundness enough for Nintendo to justify themselves to their shareholders.
Its like when they shut down those emulators earlier this year, its a complete dick move from our end but they could just point to Tears of the Kingdoms lackluster reception/sales and have their investors throwing extra lawyers in to help them do it.
Or let a Chinese developer copy Palworld whole cloth with the sphere mechanic and laugh when Nintendo tries to sue them. It sounds like Palworld already cucked so what's to defend? Fuck Nintendo, fuck pocket pair.
I don't have paid twitter, but if we want to defend palworld, someone has to @grummz and encourage him to ask people to contact nintendo investors.
Nintendo is publicly traded. If dozens of their biggest shareholders start hearing directly from the public that this makes Nintendo look like a villain, and will result in fans swearing off the brand? That's going to get investors involved in telling Nintendo it might be an unwise move to throw such might behind a bruised ego.
"Contact the investors" "Contact the advertisers"
This is how groups like media matters and SPLC / ADF get things done. We need to wise up. Bitching directly to nintendo isn't going to accomplish anything. Getting the bag-holders riled up will.
Someone with a decent following and twitter blue please @Grummz. Post a link here. I'll like and re-tweet.
Extremely difficult to do when the investors only read and speak Japanese, a language that Google Translate badly butchers on the best of days. One would either need to hire the most dedicated of überweebs, or ideally track down a Japanese person who is fluent in both English and Japanese, in order to properly convey the message they want to send.
Aren't we assuming American's aren't owning the Nintendo stock? and I am sure rich people earning large stakes can afford interpreters.
Our dollar is almost three times their dollar. We can definitely out-buy them at their own stock. We just have to rattle their English speaking sugar daddies.
Yes, because Nintendo isn't listed on the NASDAQ (US stock market), they are listed on the Japan Exchange Group (Japanese stock market). Stemming from that, one could also assume that you need to be not only fluent in the language, but also their laws which can be either stricter or different (or both) compared to dealing with the US stock market.
Furthermore, even if everything was on the up-and-up (read as: greased the right amount of palms), and you did manage to buy enough stock to get in on their investors' meetings, the chances are quite high that you would never get to speak at all because they would rather commit seppuku than let 馬鹿外人 speak on their own turf.
Alright, alternatively, isn't education a standard part of both primary and secondary education in Japan?
I'm not saying all are fluent, but there is probably at least a couple who read twitter and engage with twitter. Who can be @'d, and we have to hope we scare that investor enough to get him to talk to other nintendo investors, and start a buzz amongst themselves.
Is there actual harm in trying? Or are we just lay down and take it bottom bitches?
The only reason Nintendo is doing this to begin with is because Palworld made them look really bad by beating them at their own game. It will be trivial for them to explain this to their shareholders, if they haven't already.
Especially in the interest of preventing future incidents of people trying to do so, as Nintendo's method in the past is to DMCA big names to scare all the little ones into scattering.
Their shareholders will care more about that then looking bad for a brief time, as they always "look bad" when trying to aggressively protect their IPs every other year. But in doing so they continue to be the only real dog on the field and make billions off lackluster products constantly. Its a proven strategy for them.
I don't want to defend their scummy behavior, but that is how their business strategy has worked for a long time now.
Shareholders will care if people tell them they plan to boycott Nintendo over being a bully, Nintendo has no value if it isn't a parent-to-child transgenerational thing. Reduced current and future customers is very scary to investors.
It is, and its equally capable to happen if Nintendo starts having actual competition with its most guaranteed IPs from ex-employees and a legion of journos writing articles denigrating their value by comparison to this silly little game.
I think shareholders will be much more likely to be afraid of that scenario versus "some internet people said we were being mean :( , they might boycott us if we don't start acting right!"
What they are doing is wrong and probably legally wrong too, but you are talking about convincing the most amoral people in a mega corporation to care.
Explain sony backing off on helldivers then?
Arguably, Nintendo is reacting because Sony backed Palworld. There's plenty of other monster catch & trains out there-- but Palworld's got Sony behind them, and is a big enough threat for Nintendo to activate their legal team.
There's some cultural issues with the Palworld dev being ex-Nintendo and going against the company that raised him going on, too. Underneath, Sony supporting Palworld is a threat to The Pokemon Company, a Nintendo cash-cow.
The Palworld lawsuit can be viewed as proxy battle in the continuing corporate struggle between Nintendo and Sony, since Nintendo knocking out Palworld keeps Sony from damaging/diluting the Pokemon brand.
Like you point out, a Nintendo win leaves only their (lackluster) products on the market.
I had forgotten that angle but its likely very true. After all, damn near identical games like Coromon and Nexomon are being sold that are far more Pokemon clones than Palworld could ever come close to being. They just didn't make much noise so Nintendo didn't care to even waste time on indie slop like them.
There is a lot of petty nonsense going on behind these decisions, but at the end of it there is still logical soundness enough for Nintendo to justify themselves to their shareholders.
Its like when they shut down those emulators earlier this year, its a complete dick move from our end but they could just point to Tears of the Kingdoms lackluster reception/sales and have their investors throwing extra lawyers in to help them do it.
Or let a Chinese developer copy Palworld whole cloth with the sphere mechanic and laugh when Nintendo tries to sue them. It sounds like Palworld already cucked so what's to defend? Fuck Nintendo, fuck pocket pair.