So is refusing to provide products you were paid to provide, especially when that product is meant to reduce/remove literal human suffering. As in, that is also murder as it directly leads to a dead person in many cases from inability to gain treatment.
agreed, which is why the company should have been taken to court. the CEO being murdered doesn't change United Health's shitty practices, it's just catharsis for one person who had enough.
the only change this event will have on the industry will be that they tighten up security. in doing so, they will be looking for more money to spend which means they will be squeezing more out of their customers through their exact same shitty practices.
As you are clearly pro-death penalty then the only reason this is immoral is that the government didn't get to pull the switch. Which is pure bootlicker logic.
it's not that the government didn't sanction it, it's that there was no due process of law. What you argue for here is essentially mob justice, and that is a very dangerous thing. whether it's the government or some other system, there always must be due process before carrying out a sentence.
which is why the company should have been taken to court
In a perfect world yes. There is a reason why vigilantes are considered a symptom of a failed system.
The system has failed, and the average man has no recourse to seek justice against men like Brian. Even if he could bring him (or his company) to court, they have successfully spent infinity dollars lobbying to make their evil "legal." And even if they failed that, they have that same infinity dollars to turn the court case into your destruction, whether by having top end lawyers that destroy yours or dragging it out for so long that you go bankrupt and have to give up.
United has been brought to court many many times, and its done nothing to slow their course or even slightly change their attitudes because its water off their back. But within a day of this happening a similar company completely reversed course on a very unpopular policy change super coincidentally.
Reminding these people that they are human is one of the most important changes we can hope for, as it keeps hesitation in them to do such blatantly evil acts, and this is the most direct way to do that.
it's that there was no due process of law
Yes and its the duty of the government and legal system to make sure due process is both given to everyone and preferable to all other systems.
Once people believe due process is gone, such as by years of kangaroo courts, political activist judges/crimes, and the rich/elite being immune through absurd protections granted to them, then "justice" will be dealt out through methods like this. People will begin to take it into their own hands rather than trusting "civilized methods" like due process.
Big corporations like United are responsible for constantly chipping away at our legal system to protect themselves. In doing so they have completely removed the most important aspect of it, faith. And without that faith, they lose all protections it once offered them.
So again, in a perfect world you would be right. But we don't live in that world, and acting as if we do is how we end up easily abused and manipulated by these same Elites and the Dems.
The system has failed, and the average man has no recourse to seek justice against men like Brian.
This can't be stressed enough. The term is "the social contract" and in order for it to work, everyone, including the government, have to honor their obligations.
People stopped exercising vengeance in favor of a legal system on the implicit promise that the legal system would be fair and just in resolving their disputes. If it no longer meets that ideal, people are relieved from their moral duty to participate in it.
People forget that violence is the backbone of all things, and the only reason we put violence away is because of a gentleman's agreement for us all to work together to do better.
Because it is better when we do try to put violence away, but only an absolute fool attempts to still uphold an agreement once the other party has completely ceased to even pretend to do theirs.
And it worked REALLY well until people either got imported who had no vested interest in society as a whole continuing, and a different group decided it was advantageous to push the envelope as farrrrrrr as it could possibly go.
Litterelly society is held hostage by "I'm not touching you." Like sure in the end you didn't fire the first shot. But you're also dead so nobody gives a shit.
agreed, which is why the company should have been taken to court. the CEO being murdered doesn't change United Health's shitty practices, it's just catharsis for one person who had enough.
the only change this event will have on the industry will be that they tighten up security. in doing so, they will be looking for more money to spend which means they will be squeezing more out of their customers through their exact same shitty practices.
it's not that the government didn't sanction it, it's that there was no due process of law. What you argue for here is essentially mob justice, and that is a very dangerous thing. whether it's the government or some other system, there always must be due process before carrying out a sentence.
In a perfect world yes. There is a reason why vigilantes are considered a symptom of a failed system.
The system has failed, and the average man has no recourse to seek justice against men like Brian. Even if he could bring him (or his company) to court, they have successfully spent infinity dollars lobbying to make their evil "legal." And even if they failed that, they have that same infinity dollars to turn the court case into your destruction, whether by having top end lawyers that destroy yours or dragging it out for so long that you go bankrupt and have to give up.
United has been brought to court many many times, and its done nothing to slow their course or even slightly change their attitudes because its water off their back. But within a day of this happening a similar company completely reversed course on a very unpopular policy change super coincidentally.
Reminding these people that they are human is one of the most important changes we can hope for, as it keeps hesitation in them to do such blatantly evil acts, and this is the most direct way to do that.
Yes and its the duty of the government and legal system to make sure due process is both given to everyone and preferable to all other systems.
Once people believe due process is gone, such as by years of kangaroo courts, political activist judges/crimes, and the rich/elite being immune through absurd protections granted to them, then "justice" will be dealt out through methods like this. People will begin to take it into their own hands rather than trusting "civilized methods" like due process.
Big corporations like United are responsible for constantly chipping away at our legal system to protect themselves. In doing so they have completely removed the most important aspect of it, faith. And without that faith, they lose all protections it once offered them.
So again, in a perfect world you would be right. But we don't live in that world, and acting as if we do is how we end up easily abused and manipulated by these same Elites and the Dems.
This can't be stressed enough. The term is "the social contract" and in order for it to work, everyone, including the government, have to honor their obligations.
People stopped exercising vengeance in favor of a legal system on the implicit promise that the legal system would be fair and just in resolving their disputes. If it no longer meets that ideal, people are relieved from their moral duty to participate in it.
People forget that violence is the backbone of all things, and the only reason we put violence away is because of a gentleman's agreement for us all to work together to do better.
Because it is better when we do try to put violence away, but only an absolute fool attempts to still uphold an agreement once the other party has completely ceased to even pretend to do theirs.
And it worked REALLY well until people either got imported who had no vested interest in society as a whole continuing, and a different group decided it was advantageous to push the envelope as farrrrrrr as it could possibly go.
Litterelly society is held hostage by "I'm not touching you." Like sure in the end you didn't fire the first shot. But you're also dead so nobody gives a shit.