I think Orange county is fucked either way. So I'd split Cali off north of Marin county (the county North of SF) and give it a healthy chunk of the center, Fresno, Sacramento, Bakersfield. Call it Jackson or something (I think there was a plan for that? or was Jackson for the proposed Oregon split off to Idaho?) Then let South Cali have the Arizona border and access to South Nevada.
Seeing the population shift between the two over even just 3 years would be amazing. The Libs would never surrender Tahoe, so it kinda fucks up the plan.
I feel that nominating Kamala again could go either way. On the one hand, some people on the left might not be happy with Kamala getting propped up as the leader after she was hoistered in as Biden's replacement, and there's already been a discussion about if the democrats will not be nominating a woman again for a long time after Trump beat both of their picks. On the other hand, they might just be convinced that if Trump managed to make a comeback victory, Kamala can do the same since we've been using her time as VP to prove the point of why she shouldn't win, and the fact that there's only two real candidates during any given presidential election due to plurality voting means that people might just vote her if only because they don't want whoever Trump deems his successor.
My condolences to anyone still living in CA, Kamala would be even worse than Gavin Newsom.
Harris likely will not get past the beginning of the 2028 Dem presidential primaries.
CA governor is the only thing Harris could actually win.
May God have mercy on California.
CA needs a state divorce. An actual state divorce, not that bullshit they tried where San Francisco, LA, and Sacramento each got their own state.
Absolutely. We need more intra state secession so the rest of the state doesn't have to live like this.
I think Orange county is fucked either way. So I'd split Cali off north of Marin county (the county North of SF) and give it a healthy chunk of the center, Fresno, Sacramento, Bakersfield. Call it Jackson or something (I think there was a plan for that? or was Jackson for the proposed Oregon split off to Idaho?) Then let South Cali have the Arizona border and access to South Nevada.
Seeing the population shift between the two over even just 3 years would be amazing. The Libs would never surrender Tahoe, so it kinda fucks up the plan.
Jefferson is the proposed northern state of parts of California and parts of Oregon.
The Oregon people just want to join Idaho, not form another state. The politics would be more upset by a new state than a swap of low-pop counties.
Jefferson was the proposed state comprised of the California counties north of the Bay Area and most of Oregon outside of Portland.
you're thinking of the State of Jefferson
She won't win a Presidential primary. Never stood a chance. So yeah I guess the other thing.
Newsom and Beshear would mop the floor with her.
What, you think they still have those?
I feel that nominating Kamala again could go either way. On the one hand, some people on the left might not be happy with Kamala getting propped up as the leader after she was hoistered in as Biden's replacement, and there's already been a discussion about if the democrats will not be nominating a woman again for a long time after Trump beat both of their picks. On the other hand, they might just be convinced that if Trump managed to make a comeback victory, Kamala can do the same since we've been using her time as VP to prove the point of why she shouldn't win, and the fact that there's only two real candidates during any given presidential election due to plurality voting means that people might just vote her if only because they don't want whoever Trump deems his successor.