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Tommy Robinson wants to bring more indians in to UK. (twitter.com)
posted 7 months ago by ger111 7 months ago by ger111 +69 / -2
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– Gizortnik -13 points 7 months ago +2 / -15

As is normal with the Stormfags who think he's a race traitor...

He is not saying literally bring everyone in, he's saying those are the type of people that are okay to bring in if you are trying to save the Pension Ponzi scheme, and not muslim terrorists whom you faggots are actively defending.

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– MargarineMongoose 10 points 7 months ago +12 / -2

Sure, be he isn't a race traitor because he's a Jew and as we've established at length, Whites who are racially conscious don't consider Jews to be White, ergo why would we consider him a race traitor?

On the whole I'd say he's a net positive for Britain in that he at least does something to normalize the notion that it's ok for the British people to push back against an unending influx of people who want to kill them. Sad that such a thing needs to be normalized, but such is the hellscape that exists today.

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– ger111 [S] 7 points 7 months ago +9 / -2

i take it you haven't heard of the term "controlled opposition" before? there are way better people than Tommy Robinson but they are either in jail or are not given any media attention. Tommy Robinson is similar to Ben Shapiro in that he's propped up by the media to be the "voice" of the opposition instead of having actual legitimate nationalists be the voice of the opposition.

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– MargarineMongoose 4 points 7 months ago +4 / -0

I'm well aware. However I think it's a tightrope for them to walk because once that seed of an idea is planted, it comes with the risk of the masses taking it for themselves and running with it and breaking free of their pied piper.

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– Gizortnik -4 points 7 months ago +1 / -5

Whites who are racially conscious don't consider Jews to be White, ergo why would we consider him a race traitor?

Because you know you are wrong, which is why you're constantly trying to look out for "jewish subversion", and why you accuse everyone you don't like of being a jew, like Tommy.

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– LibertyPrimeWasRight 5 points 7 months ago +5 / -0

Look, I know it’s probably not worth trying to engage with you in good faith on this at all, but setting aside any question of whether Jews are particularly good or bad or anything for a society, they do see themselves as a separate ethnic group. Israel is predicated on this. Famous Jewish neighborhoods and enclaves like in Brooklyn are predicated on this. Be it Jews themselves, people who dislike Jews, or people who don’t really care but at least acknowledge obvious reality, the idea that an ethnic identity that is “a Jew” exists has never really been in dispute (except among those who are deliberately prevaricating). And without necessarily saying “whites shouldn’t get along with Jews,” I see absolutely no issue with saying “whites should be aware that ‘Jew’ is a distinct ethnic identity that has members that see themselves as distinct from the identity of ‘white’ and, in questions of group interests and group identity, whites should take that into account.” Because that’s simply true.

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– Gizortnik 1 point 7 months ago +1 / -0

If you engage with me in good faith, you'll find my responses much different than, "shut up stormfag". That's my response because no National Socialist has ever yet interacted with me in good faith. Even the smart ones like Arch. It's actually infuriating.

So, here's my good faith response. Neither white nor jew is an ethnic identity. This is the problem of intentionally stuffing them into the wrong category.

Race is not an ethnicity, nor a religion. A race contains multiple ethnicities, and it may contain at least one religion. A religion is neither a race nor an ethnicity. A religion may contain one race, or it may contain multiple races given it's size. However, a religious sect typically only contains one race. Any religion of significance is typically multi-ethnic. An ethnicity may contain typically contains only religion. Races contain ethnicities, and not the other way around.

The hierarchy of familial categories that make nations from narrowest to broadest go as follows:

  • Kin
  • Clan
  • Tribe
  • Ethnos
  • Nation
  • Religion
  • Race

As such, jew is not an ethnos. It is a religious sect. Ashkenazi Jew is an ethnic group. Judaism is a multi-ethnic religion. White is race. It is a multi-ethnic race. White is sufficiently broad that it actually contains multiple religions, one of which is Judaism. This is why it "white jews" are not contradictory terms, it's race, then religion, with no ethnic group specified.

they do see themselves as a separate ethnic group

They sometimes see themselves as separate. Many jews integrated into the US to such a degree that it is used against them in Israel for being secular. German jews identified themselves as "Germans of a mosaic faith". If you are operating in bad faith, you assert an unfalsifiable position that every jew that integrates is a subversive, and every jew that doesn't is a separatist.

In many cases, particularly among Americans, they are simply wrong and are trying to avoid the category of being "white", while trying to benefit from being "jew", while pretending they are not white, and pretending they are jew, while not practicing Judaism.

At that point, they can be safely dismissed as a Rachel Dolezal level Leftist.

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– MargarineMongoose 2 points 6 months ago +2 / -0

Because you know you are wrong

You're doing that lying thing again. It makes you a bad person.

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– Gizortnik -1 points 6 months ago +1 / -2

"racial consciousness" is not the sole possession of the National Socialists.

Sorry, Jews are a religion, and Whites are a race. White Jews, Black Muslims, same difference.

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– WitchHunterSiegfried 1 point 7 months ago +2 / -1

I’m not defending mudslimes at all, the ones in Palestine aren’t causing me issues and are fighting my enemy, so ofc I’m good with ‘em, the ones in my lands, fuck ‘em they don’t belong

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– Gizortnik -2 points 7 months ago +1 / -3

No, you're good with them when they come over here and rape your sister. It's why you repeat whatever propaganda you get spoon fed to you by Qatar, and make their arguments more sympathetic.

Additionally, your efforts help to defeat populist sentiment, that way you're doubly effective at supporting both jihadis and the establishment.

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– WitchHunterSiegfried 1 point 7 months ago +1 / -0

You got me, hail Joe Biden and Allah Akbar!

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– Gizortnik 0 points 7 months ago +1 / -1

I know.

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