I accept the qualification that white people aren't afraid of black people until there's a critical mass of them. At 30% they would be justifiably afraid. Statistically at that point you have some problem neighbors. The prices do result in a feedback loop. They are cause and effect with neighborhood desirability. As happens with things with difficult to ascertain inherent value.
The problem is that you don't have inherent value, nobody does.
If you just say, "no, it's good, unlimited mass migration is fine as long as it's from Germans, Jews, or Japanese" that tells you nothing. You need to tell where people are coming from and why. And even there, we still see the effects of Leftism having an even worse effect.
Ecuador is a good example, given how bad MS-13 became before Bukele's hard-nosed response. MS-13 doesn't originate in Equador, it originates in Los Angeles. It is made of Equadorian migrants. When MS-13 members went back to Equador, that is where you see the crime rate absolutely explode. If you assumed that race and ethnicity was enough, there should be no difference in the crime rate whether or not MS-13 members leave or return to Equador. Instead, LA radicalized Equadorians into extreme levels of violence were not represented in any Equadorian migrant group.
This distinction between immigrant and domestic populations is replicated across multiple states. Hell, East Germans are a full 1 SD IQ point lower than West Germany.
I wouldn't say mass migration is fine if they are white (or whatever). I would say we should pause all immigration while we figure our shit out. And then vet people carefully.
All I heard about MS-13 is Ecuadorians commit violence in LA and they commit it back home. Even if we are 100% racist, you can observe the negative effects of criminals moving internationally.
I'm not sure what your point about E German and W German IQ is. IQ has a developmental component even in perfectly healthy people. E Germans were communist, and they probably starved.
That's my point, you've found it clearly. Leftist policies are totalitarian and horribly destructive which breed pathological behavior in people, regardless of whatever biological disposition they may have. Physical insecurity, gaslighting, starvation, demoralization, all of these outcomes of leftist polices not only make people worse, but make worse people.
This is why white flight wasn't actually all that common in earlier parts of the 20th century, and why segregationist laws (that were local) got repealed after a few decades. Normal integration, over time, does take place.
But if you ideologically capture a demographic and use institutions to promote Cluster B personality disorders among that population, and stoke resentment and hatred, well, son of a bitch, crime rises. The longer the pathology is allowed to continue, the worse the situation gets. That's what whites are fleeing. They're looking at the situation being fundamentally unsolvable and giving up because they are seeing a pathological culture with no positive to identify. But it's not merely an ethnic difference, it cultural difference of the worst kind.
It's the same reason you wouldn't want a white Muslim population living next to you. Islam teaches a pro-violence, pro-pedophilia, pro-tyranny, supremacist set of values that are incompatible with western values. Islam can negate whatever ethnic familiarity you have. That's why you have to vet people, and not rely on the generalization itself.
But it's not merely an ethnic difference, it cultural difference of the worst kind.
Culture, race, and ethnicity (and Religion) are all very well tied together. Usually, pick an "ethnic" group, and they share all these things.
I don't know what white Muslims would be. I know plenty of Muslims would be described as white, as a big tent option. Don't ever dare call anyone mixed race.
But if we're talking traditional white Christian Americans who converted, I don't think there are enough to be a bloc.
Black Muslims might be an ethnicity, since they're more into it and build families around it. But I would not be shocked if any of these felt like the Umma is their ethnicity. Religion is a powerful force. Whatever people seize on as their identify (for a long time -- ignoring the johnny come lately identity stuff), is so.
I accept the qualification that white people aren't afraid of black people until there's a critical mass of them. At 30% they would be justifiably afraid. Statistically at that point you have some problem neighbors. The prices do result in a feedback loop. They are cause and effect with neighborhood desirability. As happens with things with difficult to ascertain inherent value.
The problem is that you don't have inherent value, nobody does.
If you just say, "no, it's good, unlimited mass migration is fine as long as it's from Germans, Jews, or Japanese" that tells you nothing. You need to tell where people are coming from and why. And even there, we still see the effects of Leftism having an even worse effect.
Ecuador is a good example, given how bad MS-13 became before Bukele's hard-nosed response. MS-13 doesn't originate in Equador, it originates in Los Angeles. It is made of Equadorian migrants. When MS-13 members went back to Equador, that is where you see the crime rate absolutely explode. If you assumed that race and ethnicity was enough, there should be no difference in the crime rate whether or not MS-13 members leave or return to Equador. Instead, LA radicalized Equadorians into extreme levels of violence were not represented in any Equadorian migrant group.
This distinction between immigrant and domestic populations is replicated across multiple states. Hell, East Germans are a full 1 SD IQ point lower than West Germany.
I wouldn't say mass migration is fine if they are white (or whatever). I would say we should pause all immigration while we figure our shit out. And then vet people carefully.
All I heard about MS-13 is Ecuadorians commit violence in LA and they commit it back home. Even if we are 100% racist, you can observe the negative effects of criminals moving internationally.
I'm not sure what your point about E German and W German IQ is. IQ has a developmental component even in perfectly healthy people. E Germans were communist, and they probably starved.
That's my point, you've found it clearly. Leftist policies are totalitarian and horribly destructive which breed pathological behavior in people, regardless of whatever biological disposition they may have. Physical insecurity, gaslighting, starvation, demoralization, all of these outcomes of leftist polices not only make people worse, but make worse people.
This is why white flight wasn't actually all that common in earlier parts of the 20th century, and why segregationist laws (that were local) got repealed after a few decades. Normal integration, over time, does take place.
But if you ideologically capture a demographic and use institutions to promote Cluster B personality disorders among that population, and stoke resentment and hatred, well, son of a bitch, crime rises. The longer the pathology is allowed to continue, the worse the situation gets. That's what whites are fleeing. They're looking at the situation being fundamentally unsolvable and giving up because they are seeing a pathological culture with no positive to identify. But it's not merely an ethnic difference, it cultural difference of the worst kind.
It's the same reason you wouldn't want a white Muslim population living next to you. Islam teaches a pro-violence, pro-pedophilia, pro-tyranny, supremacist set of values that are incompatible with western values. Islam can negate whatever ethnic familiarity you have. That's why you have to vet people, and not rely on the generalization itself.
Culture, race, and ethnicity (and Religion) are all very well tied together. Usually, pick an "ethnic" group, and they share all these things.
I don't know what white Muslims would be. I know plenty of Muslims would be described as white, as a big tent option. Don't ever dare call anyone mixed race. But if we're talking traditional white Christian Americans who converted, I don't think there are enough to be a bloc. Black Muslims might be an ethnicity, since they're more into it and build families around it. But I would not be shocked if any of these felt like the Umma is their ethnicity. Religion is a powerful force. Whatever people seize on as their identify (for a long time -- ignoring the johnny come lately identity stuff), is so.