It's not OK for adults either. I know some people are on the "adults should be able to do with their own bodies" tour, and that's true to some extent. This in no way requires doctors to be complicit in what you do.
You're free to hack off your hand, because you are transabled, but you're not free to demand that a doctor do that for you.
It’s the ultimate modern question. Can the average person reliably dictate how their body is treated or does a group consensus determine it? If we were able to debate it in real life without someone faking a fire, we could have some great discussions with it.
I see it as those freaks who get insane piercings, facial tattoos, forked tongues, etc. none of it is actually necessary, but if they're going to do it better to have someone who knows how to get it done without killing them.
might as well ban video games and alcohol too. none of those have any benefit to society afterall and people who indulge in them waste their lives. Ban skateboards and motorcycles because they are so dangerous. while we're at it, might as well ban drivable cars since we have self-driving car technology. car crashes are one of the leading causes of death in the United States as after all! /s
I don't want to be in the business of dictating what people can and can't do with their bodies. everything is relative and what is egregious to some is sensible to others.
So long as they don't hurt anyone else, there's no reason to ban it.
Video games and alcohol are good in small doses. Mutilation in small doses is also bad. Cars have huge advantages that grossly outweigh car crashes. Mutilation has no advantages.
Also, what people do to their bodies doesn't stay private. Those mutilated freaks will then demand access to women's spaces.
Not sure what your point is now. We weren't talking about what people can do with their bodies. Your argument was why we should allow licensed healthcare professionals to mutilate (harm) others. If you're saying that a store selling someone liquor and a doctor cutting someone's tongue or junk off are basically the same thing, we'll have to agree to disagree.
I would not even have an objection to this specifically if you could pay a doctor to amputate your arm without any cause, though I find that undesirable, but my main issue is that this form of mutilation has special status.
It's not OK for adults either. I know some people are on the "adults should be able to do with their own bodies" tour, and that's true to some extent. This in no way requires doctors to be complicit in what you do.
You're free to hack off your hand, because you are transabled, but you're not free to demand that a doctor do that for you.
It’s the ultimate modern question. Can the average person reliably dictate how their body is treated or does a group consensus determine it? If we were able to debate it in real life without someone faking a fire, we could have some great discussions with it.
demand? with government insurance? no.
Request and pay for out of pocket? Sure why not.
I see it as those freaks who get insane piercings, facial tattoos, forked tongues, etc. none of it is actually necessary, but if they're going to do it better to have someone who knows how to get it done without killing them.
Ban those too. If people kill themselves trying to mutilate their own bodies it may deter others.
Not just that, but criminalize crossdressing with the intention to deceive others. Any non comedic attempt even.
might as well ban video games and alcohol too. none of those have any benefit to society afterall and people who indulge in them waste their lives. Ban skateboards and motorcycles because they are so dangerous. while we're at it, might as well ban drivable cars since we have self-driving car technology. car crashes are one of the leading causes of death in the United States as after all! /s
I don't want to be in the business of dictating what people can and can't do with their bodies. everything is relative and what is egregious to some is sensible to others. So long as they don't hurt anyone else, there's no reason to ban it.
Video games and alcohol are good in small doses. Mutilation in small doses is also bad. Cars have huge advantages that grossly outweigh car crashes. Mutilation has no advantages.
Also, what people do to their bodies doesn't stay private. Those mutilated freaks will then demand access to women's spaces.
Not sure what your point is now. We weren't talking about what people can do with their bodies. Your argument was why we should allow licensed healthcare professionals to mutilate (harm) others. If you're saying that a store selling someone liquor and a doctor cutting someone's tongue or junk off are basically the same thing, we'll have to agree to disagree.
First, do no harm.
I would not even have an objection to this specifically if you could pay a doctor to amputate your arm without any cause, though I find that undesirable, but my main issue is that this form of mutilation has special status.