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Israel Has Invaded Lebanon (AngryCops Live Stream) (www.youtube.com)
posted 1 year ago by Gizortnik 1 year ago by Gizortnik +66 / -0
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– Gizortnik [S] 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

I'm not sure what the situation would be, honestly. I think there's defiantly a possibility of Arab colonialism (particularly in Red states), but I feel like that would further isolate out Lefist jews in the US, which Trump is clearly trying to split. Trump would probably get more jewish votes in the US by pledging to help Israel destroy Hamas with weapons funding, but not by letting "refugees" in.

Moreover, it looks like Trump has two major in the middle east. He wants to move away from the war-profiteering and focus on tourist profiteering, which inherently requires peace, and he seems to be pushing that as a way to make money as the US continues to seek energy independence. As for Israel, I'd expect he'd do what he did with weapons funding to Saudi Arabia and just let Israel wage the war, but turn to the American people and say, "They bought a lot of weapons, big beautiful weapons, and we're gonna get a lot of jobs selling them those weapons." It wouldn't be a lie, it would placate the warmongers & Israel, and it wouldn't push US troops into the war. We already do this shit with Ukraine, but the issue is that the Ukrainians are so shit we also have to secretly do their own Special Operations missions for them too. Israel's troops are easily better than a lot of western nations at this point.

I don't think the US is guaranteed to be drawn into this in a big way, but there's no question there's forces pushing for it. If Trump can pull this back from a regional war, he'll have well earned a genuine Nobel Peace Prize.

The primary reason the US won't ever do a draft is because the quality of troops is so bad it renders the military literally combat ineffective. No one wants a draft, not even the pentagon.

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– ArchRespawnsAgain 29 points 1 year ago +29 / -0

Jewish votes matter little outside of local elections. It's donations that matter, and they are going to come from people with deep ties to Israel. They will put Israel's desire ahead of possible danger to the diaspora that Muslim migrants might bring. The diaspora will get enhanced protections with even more crackdowns on anti-Semitism and be expected to just move to Israel if they still don't feel safe.

I doubt Trump would openly take responsibility for letting the Muslims in. It will probably look something like this where he and other Republicans get a bill passed then pretend to be angry at the effects of it and blame it all on Dems.

Israel has said it expects the West to attack Iran if needed. Since Israel controls the US, that's what will happen. If Iran jumps in directly, so will the US.

As far as the draft, remember that the Israelis don't even consider us human. They don't care how many will have to die. Hell, they might even use a draft just to cull young White men, with little regard for military objects, since they consider us their biggest threat and an object of revenge. That said, the risk of backlash against them will probably make them hesitate.

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– Gizortnik [S] 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Israel's Left is going to be sending money to America's Left, and Israel's Right is going to send money to America's Right, so I'd call that basically a wash. American jews are not going to move to Israel unless they can hollow out a Leftist shithole for themselves there. Otherwise, they are going to be horribly appalled by the religiosity of Israeli jews.

Israel has never controlled the US, and has repeatedly acted in defiance of the west, because Israel has never really given a shit what the US thinks. And just for the retards in the back, for at least the 10th time, France is a greater ally than Israel. Their open obstinance to US direction and objectives makes them a relatively shit ally. Somewhere around Spain. If Israel controlled US policy, they wouldn't have to be obstinate in the first place. Famously, the last time the Israelis invaded Lebanon, it was a US Marine that put a 1911 to the helmet of an Israeli general for thinking that the Israeli army was going to go invade Lebanon, when the Marines were holding the road to Beruit. They did eventually get in, but if Israel controlled the US, that wouldn't have happened in the first place.

As for the draft, nonsense on Israel not considering Americans human. And again, Israel doesn't dictate American policy, they ignore it. Third, there is no benefit to the draft.

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– ArchRespawnsAgain 23 points 1 year ago +23 / -0

Jews from America have been moving into settlements for years. They absolutely will move there. The wealthy, secular Jews won't have to move since they face such little threat from migrants who will be dumped in working class neighborhoods. They'll just stay here and kvetch about anti-Semitism.

The US military has been deployed to assist Israel already in this current conflict, just in limited capacity. The navy is there to deter Iran, for example. The US also fought the second Iraq war at the behest of Israel. None of this shit is helping the US. It's all for their sake that this gets done.

It's consistent with centuries of their religious teachings not to consider us human.

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– Gizortnik [S] 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

I'd like to see evidence that wealthy, secular, American jews are moving into the Settlements. From everything I've seen it's only the most hard-line zionists and militants that do that. The Leftist Americans would act like Leftist Americans and move directly into the largest, most densely populated city in Israel and post videos about the Night Life.

The US fought both of the Iraq wars on behalf of Saudi Arabia.

You claim that jews don't consider anyone else human, but that doesn't follow the very concept of being "chosen" as apart from "human"; it isn't consistent with """"secular jews"""" (non-jews claiming to be "ethnic" jews) adopting religious dogma; and it doesn't map to the the centuries of statements of jews in the US.

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– horstshort 13 points 1 year ago +13 / -0

The Jewish Right creates refugees and the Jewish Left is importing those refugees to the west. But don't worry that is just a coincidence.

Israel has never controlled the US, and has repeatedly acted in defiance of the west, because Israel has never really given a shit what the US thinks.

Correct. Israel doesn't give a shit about US interests. They've always actively worked against US interests. They murder US soldiers, spy and sell secrets to the enemies of the US, steal weapons grade uranium, a very anti-Israel president conveniently gets murdered but strangely enough the US still always does what the Israel lobby demands of them. But hey... Israel has never controlled the US. Honk honk or something.

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– Gizortnik [S] 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

It's not a coincidence, it's an unfalsifiable claim. There is no path that Israel could ever take to convince you that there isn't a jewish racial conspiracy.

This shows up in your next paragraph. You argue all the reasons why Israel's interest don't align with the US, then you argue that Israel rules the US anyway. You demand to take both positions so you can't be wrong.

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