This is going to keep escalating until the US is drawn into it in a big way, and we will get a ton of angry Muslims refugees in much of the West. Waves of them will probably begin arriving while Mayorkas is still running immigration so they will be let right in. The influx would also continue if Harris wins. I don't know if Trump would even stop it. He gets paid a lot of money to do Israel's bidding, and they want those Muslims in the West.
Also, be sure to dodge the draft if it comes to that. The White man has no place in the Jewish man's army.
I'm not sure what the situation would be, honestly. I think there's defiantly a possibility of Arab colonialism (particularly in Red states), but I feel like that would further isolate out Lefist jews in the US, which Trump is clearly trying to split. Trump would probably get more jewish votes in the US by pledging to help Israel destroy Hamas with weapons funding, but not by letting "refugees" in.
Moreover, it looks like Trump has two major in the middle east. He wants to move away from the war-profiteering and focus on tourist profiteering, which inherently requires peace, and he seems to be pushing that as a way to make money as the US continues to seek energy independence. As for Israel, I'd expect he'd do what he did with weapons funding to Saudi Arabia and just let Israel wage the war, but turn to the American people and say, "They bought a lot of weapons, big beautiful weapons, and we're gonna get a lot of jobs selling them those weapons." It wouldn't be a lie, it would placate the warmongers & Israel, and it wouldn't push US troops into the war. We already do this shit with Ukraine, but the issue is that the Ukrainians are so shit we also have to secretly do their own Special Operations missions for them too. Israel's troops are easily better than a lot of western nations at this point.
I don't think the US is guaranteed to be drawn into this in a big way, but there's no question there's forces pushing for it. If Trump can pull this back from a regional war, he'll have well earned a genuine Nobel Peace Prize.
The primary reason the US won't ever do a draft is because the quality of troops is so bad it renders the military literally combat ineffective. No one wants a draft, not even the pentagon.
Jewish votes matter little outside of local elections. It's donations that matter, and they are going to come from people with deep ties to Israel. They will put Israel's desire ahead of possible danger to the diaspora that Muslim migrants might bring. The diaspora will get enhanced protections with even more crackdowns on anti-Semitism and be expected to just move to Israel if they still don't feel safe.
I doubt Trump would openly take responsibility for letting the Muslims in. It will probably look something like this where he and other Republicans get a bill passed then pretend to be angry at the effects of it and blame it all on Dems.
Israel has said it expects the West to attack Iran if needed. Since Israel controls the US, that's what will happen. If Iran jumps in directly, so will the US.
As far as the draft, remember that the Israelis don't even consider us human. They don't care how many will have to die. Hell, they might even use a draft just to cull young White men, with little regard for military objects, since they consider us their biggest threat and an object of revenge. That said, the risk of backlash against them will probably make them hesitate.
Israel's Left is going to be sending money to America's Left, and Israel's Right is going to send money to America's Right, so I'd call that basically a wash. American jews are not going to move to Israel unless they can hollow out a Leftist shithole for themselves there. Otherwise, they are going to be horribly appalled by the religiosity of Israeli jews.
Israel has never controlled the US, and has repeatedly acted in defiance of the west, because Israel has never really given a shit what the US thinks. And just for the retards in the back, for at least the 10th time, France is a greater ally than Israel. Their open obstinance to US direction and objectives makes them a relatively shit ally. Somewhere around Spain. If Israel controlled US policy, they wouldn't have to be obstinate in the first place. Famously, the last time the Israelis invaded Lebanon, it was a US Marine that put a 1911 to the helmet of an Israeli general for thinking that the Israeli army was going to go invade Lebanon, when the Marines were holding the road to Beruit. They did eventually get in, but if Israel controlled the US, that wouldn't have happened in the first place.
As for the draft, nonsense on Israel not considering Americans human. And again, Israel doesn't dictate American policy, they ignore it. Third, there is no benefit to the draft.
Jews from America have been moving into settlements for years. They absolutely will move there. The wealthy, secular Jews won't have to move since they face such little threat from migrants who will be dumped in working class neighborhoods. They'll just stay here and kvetch about anti-Semitism.
The US military has been deployed to assist Israel already in this current conflict, just in limited capacity. The navy is there to deter Iran, for example. The US also fought the second Iraq war at the behest of Israel. None of this shit is helping the US. It's all for their sake that this gets done.
It's consistent with centuries of their religious teachings not to consider us human.
I'd like to see evidence that wealthy, secular, American jews are moving into the Settlements. From everything I've seen it's only the most hard-line zionists and militants that do that. The Leftist Americans would act like Leftist Americans and move directly into the largest, most densely populated city in Israel and post videos about the Night Life.
The US fought both of the Iraq wars on behalf of Saudi Arabia.
You claim that jews don't consider anyone else human, but that doesn't follow the very concept of being "chosen" as apart from "human"; it isn't consistent with """"secular jews"""" (non-jews claiming to be "ethnic" jews) adopting religious dogma; and it doesn't map to the the centuries of statements of jews in the US.
I specifically said the wealthy, secular Jews are the least likely to move over there.
The Clean Break memo explains why the second Iraq War happened. It had nothing to do with Saudi Arabia's security and everything to do with Israel's.
The Talmud says things like it being fine to murder and steal from gentiles and that we have no souls. It's hardly surprising that they don't shout this on the street corners when they are a diaspora minority. When they feel safe in their ethnostate, they let the mask slip more but even then are still image conscious (see how he pretended to be sorry).
It's hardly surprising that they don't shout this on the street corners when they are a diaspora minority. When they feel safe in their ethnostate, they let the mask slip more but even then are still image conscious (see how he pretended to be sorry).
They also don't tend to say it to each other or write it in books. You're not willing to accept that different jews living in different places with different historical context behave differently.
The Jewish Right creates refugees and the Jewish Left is importing those refugees to the west. But don't worry that is just a coincidence.
Israel has never controlled the US, and has repeatedly acted in defiance of the west, because Israel has never really given a shit what the US thinks.
Correct. Israel doesn't give a shit about US interests. They've always actively worked against US interests. They murder US soldiers, spy and sell secrets to the enemies of the US, steal weapons grade uranium, a very anti-Israel president conveniently gets murdered but strangely enough the US still always does what the Israel lobby demands of them. But hey... Israel has never controlled the US. Honk honk or something.
It's not a coincidence, it's an unfalsifiable claim. There is no path that Israel could ever take to convince you that there isn't a jewish racial conspiracy.
This shows up in your next paragraph. You argue all the reasons why Israel's interest don't align with the US, then you argue that Israel rules the US anyway. You demand to take both positions so you can't be wrong.
Does the masters interests need to align with the interests of his slaves? Either you have a seriously flawed sense of logic or you're trying to deflect.
AngryCops gets to claim credit for saying that the Beeper Attack was preparation for an invasion, as well as a mechanism to prevent air warfare. Additionally, Hezbollah is run by people who didn't get radios or pagers.
DC looks like they are getting their war, though it seems like Biden & Harris getting a peace deal for the election is now dead; and we are now moving towards a major regional war. Lebanon isn't just Lebanon, it's a vassal state of Syria. So this is technically a proxy war against both Iran and Syria.
I'm hoping for less than a million dead, and I'm really hoping we don't have to fucking directly involve ourselves further into another war.
To be honest, this is actually perfect timing for Israel to do this:
Hamas has been obliterated in Gaza
Syria STILL hasn't recovered from their civil war
Iran has too many issues to help directly anymore and between them and Israel is now a squadron of F22s
Saudi Arabia doesn't care as they're more focused on Yemen and Iran messing with their oil shipments.
Egypt doesn't care as they just don't want ANY refugees from the Palestinian areas.
Hezbollah has lost most of it's communication network thanks to the pagers attack and that's going to affect their logistics.
America is currently run by a weak administration that is trying to get another term.
If Israel goes all out against Lebanon, they'll win before Trump takes office. We've effectively had another 7 day war in the 21st century. The only one that COULD interfere is Jordan and that seems unlikely with no other allies to join them.
Agreed, the Israelis obviously planned this and took advantage of a closing window of opportunity. It's ruthless, but I can't blame Netanyahu for trying. Especially since he could be blamed for the October 7th attack in the first place, and he needs the political capital of a successful war to defeat the Leftist judiciary.
I'm guessing Israel is afraid Trump may actually pull off a miracle and over perform so much that the DNC's election "fortification" won't work this time.
They're racing to grab as much territory as they can before the money and arms spigot gets turned off.
I don't think the spigot gets turned off under Trump, but I expect it to get turned off after Trump. The left is just going full anti-jew at this point, so it'll only be Boomer Cons that support Israel after Trump.
I disagree with that, being that it's entirely a Leftist argument, but my confusion is: why do you have a problem with that? It's the same shit you would do if given any power. You just think you're more entitled to power than jews. You don't disagree with the strawman, you just want to be the strawman.
I would also like to publicly admit that I was wrong about the pagers NOT being filled with High Explosives. Apparently that was the case. I didn't seriously think Israel and Mossad had so successfully infiltrated Hezbollah's logistical system that they had been intercepting pager and radio systems for months.
had been intercepting pager and radio systems for months.
Apparently, it wasnt even that. It was...more complex.
Basically, they scared Hezbollah into giving up their Iphones by proving they had hacked them, and heard that they were going to take time to switch over to pagers and radios over the next several months. In that time, Israel had set up a legitimate company selling legitimate pagers and radios to get street cred, but there was nothing officially connecting it to Israel. Then they used their own people within Hezbollah to get them to take an order from this company, and when the contract was approve that order was sabotaged. And the sabotage was a small amount of heat-activated explosives, and when the order came down they would hack the pagers and cause the batteries to overload and therefore heat up (which would also activate the explosive) .
Quite frankly, if this was a James Bond movie, we would say it is too complex to ever work. But sometimes reality is really stranger than fiction (like when Audie Murphy had to leave out parts of his military career from his biographical movie because people didnt believe them).
if this was a James Bond movie, we would say it is too complex to ever work
because usually people in movies have limited resources to make the story more interesting. give me the entire western world as an ethical and religious friend in baby-eating as well as trillions in make-believe money and i can also pull impossible movie stunts.
I mean, I didn't think they'd pull that off. Like I said before, what are the chances that nobody disassembles their phone or radio just to be careful, or doing a repair, or even causes one to accidentally detonate?
But yeah, none of them decided to try and tear apart these radios, either to inspect them, or repair them. That's just lazy.
Audie Murphy
Israel's attack was much more believable. Which is why he's fucking amazing.
I said "battery assembly" for a reason. Take the real battery, put the charge on the one side, add a layer of packaging to make that entire unit look like a slightly larger battery.
Now it's in the device, but the odds of someone disassembling "the battery" are miniscule. They might remove it and replace it with a legitimate battery during regular use, but they're not going to dissect the tampered one.
I would to! Jesus. That's basically the goal of every invasion: get in, get out (Unless you're a fucking Neo-Conservative like Paul Wolfowitz). If you're being taken over by Communists, and the war ends in 6 days, that's a hell of a lot less blood and treasure lost than a fucking 5,10,30, or 100 year long fucking war.
Not sure the Israelis will suffer the same kind of ass-spanking like back in the mid-late 2000s, but one could hope.
I'm wondering if the end goal here is Syria? Maybe because the Ukraine-Russia thing isn't going anywhere and the attempt to ruin Syria by Turkish/Kurd/US invasion didn't work? To my knowledge, Russia is allied with Lebanon and Syria.
"Ass spanking"? The second intifada was bloody, but it wasn't the Yom Kippur War. And that's one of the few major set-backs Israel ever really had. Frankly, the history of Arab armies attack Israel has been noticeably terrible.
The end goal in Syria is to build a second pipeline outside of Ukraine. That's the whole reason for the existence of the FSA, and the majority of the Syrian revolution.
The end goal in Syria is to build a second pipeline outside of Ukraine. That's the whole reason for the existence of the FSA, and the majority of the Syrian revolution
I'm actually glad to see at least someone else talk about this. The Syrian Civil War kind of got memory-holed long enough that people forget that a lot of the current fighting in Black/Mediterranean Sea areas is still over oil/gas prices.
This is going to keep escalating until the US is drawn into it in a big way, and we will get a ton of angry Muslims refugees in much of the West. Waves of them will probably begin arriving while Mayorkas is still running immigration so they will be let right in. The influx would also continue if Harris wins. I don't know if Trump would even stop it. He gets paid a lot of money to do Israel's bidding, and they want those Muslims in the West.
Also, be sure to dodge the draft if it comes to that. The White man has no place in the Jewish man's army.
Genocidal apartheid israel is a terrorist state, as evidenced by it's actions.
I'm not sure what the situation would be, honestly. I think there's defiantly a possibility of Arab colonialism (particularly in Red states), but I feel like that would further isolate out Lefist jews in the US, which Trump is clearly trying to split. Trump would probably get more jewish votes in the US by pledging to help Israel destroy Hamas with weapons funding, but not by letting "refugees" in.
Moreover, it looks like Trump has two major in the middle east. He wants to move away from the war-profiteering and focus on tourist profiteering, which inherently requires peace, and he seems to be pushing that as a way to make money as the US continues to seek energy independence. As for Israel, I'd expect he'd do what he did with weapons funding to Saudi Arabia and just let Israel wage the war, but turn to the American people and say, "They bought a lot of weapons, big beautiful weapons, and we're gonna get a lot of jobs selling them those weapons." It wouldn't be a lie, it would placate the warmongers & Israel, and it wouldn't push US troops into the war. We already do this shit with Ukraine, but the issue is that the Ukrainians are so shit we also have to secretly do their own Special Operations missions for them too. Israel's troops are easily better than a lot of western nations at this point.
I don't think the US is guaranteed to be drawn into this in a big way, but there's no question there's forces pushing for it. If Trump can pull this back from a regional war, he'll have well earned a genuine Nobel Peace Prize.
The primary reason the US won't ever do a draft is because the quality of troops is so bad it renders the military literally combat ineffective. No one wants a draft, not even the pentagon.
Jewish votes matter little outside of local elections. It's donations that matter, and they are going to come from people with deep ties to Israel. They will put Israel's desire ahead of possible danger to the diaspora that Muslim migrants might bring. The diaspora will get enhanced protections with even more crackdowns on anti-Semitism and be expected to just move to Israel if they still don't feel safe.
I doubt Trump would openly take responsibility for letting the Muslims in. It will probably look something like this where he and other Republicans get a bill passed then pretend to be angry at the effects of it and blame it all on Dems.
Israel has said it expects the West to attack Iran if needed. Since Israel controls the US, that's what will happen. If Iran jumps in directly, so will the US.
As far as the draft, remember that the Israelis don't even consider us human. They don't care how many will have to die. Hell, they might even use a draft just to cull young White men, with little regard for military objects, since they consider us their biggest threat and an object of revenge. That said, the risk of backlash against them will probably make them hesitate.
Israel's Left is going to be sending money to America's Left, and Israel's Right is going to send money to America's Right, so I'd call that basically a wash. American jews are not going to move to Israel unless they can hollow out a Leftist shithole for themselves there. Otherwise, they are going to be horribly appalled by the religiosity of Israeli jews.
Israel has never controlled the US, and has repeatedly acted in defiance of the west, because Israel has never really given a shit what the US thinks. And just for the retards in the back, for at least the 10th time, France is a greater ally than Israel. Their open obstinance to US direction and objectives makes them a relatively shit ally. Somewhere around Spain. If Israel controlled US policy, they wouldn't have to be obstinate in the first place. Famously, the last time the Israelis invaded Lebanon, it was a US Marine that put a 1911 to the helmet of an Israeli general for thinking that the Israeli army was going to go invade Lebanon, when the Marines were holding the road to Beruit. They did eventually get in, but if Israel controlled the US, that wouldn't have happened in the first place.
As for the draft, nonsense on Israel not considering Americans human. And again, Israel doesn't dictate American policy, they ignore it. Third, there is no benefit to the draft.
Jews from America have been moving into settlements for years. They absolutely will move there. The wealthy, secular Jews won't have to move since they face such little threat from migrants who will be dumped in working class neighborhoods. They'll just stay here and kvetch about anti-Semitism.
The US military has been deployed to assist Israel already in this current conflict, just in limited capacity. The navy is there to deter Iran, for example. The US also fought the second Iraq war at the behest of Israel. None of this shit is helping the US. It's all for their sake that this gets done.
It's consistent with centuries of their religious teachings not to consider us human.
I'd like to see evidence that wealthy, secular, American jews are moving into the Settlements. From everything I've seen it's only the most hard-line zionists and militants that do that. The Leftist Americans would act like Leftist Americans and move directly into the largest, most densely populated city in Israel and post videos about the Night Life.
The US fought both of the Iraq wars on behalf of Saudi Arabia.
You claim that jews don't consider anyone else human, but that doesn't follow the very concept of being "chosen" as apart from "human"; it isn't consistent with """"secular jews"""" (non-jews claiming to be "ethnic" jews) adopting religious dogma; and it doesn't map to the the centuries of statements of jews in the US.
I specifically said the wealthy, secular Jews are the least likely to move over there.
The Clean Break memo explains why the second Iraq War happened. It had nothing to do with Saudi Arabia's security and everything to do with Israel's.
The Talmud says things like it being fine to murder and steal from gentiles and that we have no souls. It's hardly surprising that they don't shout this on the street corners when they are a diaspora minority. When they feel safe in their ethnostate, they let the mask slip more but even then are still image conscious (see how he pretended to be sorry).
I clearly misread that then.
They also don't tend to say it to each other or write it in books. You're not willing to accept that different jews living in different places with different historical context behave differently.
The Jewish Right creates refugees and the Jewish Left is importing those refugees to the west. But don't worry that is just a coincidence.
Correct. Israel doesn't give a shit about US interests. They've always actively worked against US interests. They murder US soldiers, spy and sell secrets to the enemies of the US, steal weapons grade uranium, a very anti-Israel president conveniently gets murdered but strangely enough the US still always does what the Israel lobby demands of them. But hey... Israel has never controlled the US. Honk honk or something.
It's not a coincidence, it's an unfalsifiable claim. There is no path that Israel could ever take to convince you that there isn't a jewish racial conspiracy.
This shows up in your next paragraph. You argue all the reasons why Israel's interest don't align with the US, then you argue that Israel rules the US anyway. You demand to take both positions so you can't be wrong.
Does the masters interests need to align with the interests of his slaves? Either you have a seriously flawed sense of logic or you're trying to deflect.
With him, it's the always latter.
Muslims and Jews fighting over who should control a once-Christian nation. Very sad. Many such cases.
Make Lebanon Christian Again.
Why stop there?
Deus Vult
Well, shit.
AngryCops gets to claim credit for saying that the Beeper Attack was preparation for an invasion, as well as a mechanism to prevent air warfare. Additionally, Hezbollah is run by people who didn't get radios or pagers.
DC looks like they are getting their war, though it seems like Biden & Harris getting a peace deal for the election is now dead; and we are now moving towards a major regional war. Lebanon isn't just Lebanon, it's a vassal state of Syria. So this is technically a proxy war against both Iran and Syria.
I'm hoping for less than a million dead, and I'm really hoping we don't have to fucking directly involve ourselves further into another war.
To be honest, this is actually perfect timing for Israel to do this:
Hamas has been obliterated in Gaza
Syria STILL hasn't recovered from their civil war
Iran has too many issues to help directly anymore and between them and Israel is now a squadron of F22s
Saudi Arabia doesn't care as they're more focused on Yemen and Iran messing with their oil shipments.
Egypt doesn't care as they just don't want ANY refugees from the Palestinian areas.
Hezbollah has lost most of it's communication network thanks to the pagers attack and that's going to affect their logistics.
America is currently run by a weak administration that is trying to get another term.
If Israel goes all out against Lebanon, they'll win before Trump takes office. We've effectively had another 7 day war in the 21st century. The only one that COULD interfere is Jordan and that seems unlikely with no other allies to join them.
Agreed, the Israelis obviously planned this and took advantage of a closing window of opportunity. It's ruthless, but I can't blame Netanyahu for trying. Especially since he could be blamed for the October 7th attack in the first place, and he needs the political capital of a successful war to defeat the Leftist judiciary.
I'm guessing Israel is afraid Trump may actually pull off a miracle and over perform so much that the DNC's election "fortification" won't work this time.
They're racing to grab as much territory as they can before the money and arms spigot gets turned off.
I don't know how you can listen to Trump guzzling Jewish cock and actually think he's going to do anything but give Israel the entire house.
I don't think the spigot gets turned off under Trump, but I expect it to get turned off after Trump. The left is just going full anti-jew at this point, so it'll only be Boomer Cons that support Israel after Trump.
Genocidal apartheid israel is a terrorist state, as evidenced by it's actions.
I disagree with that, being that it's entirely a Leftist argument, but my confusion is: why do you have a problem with that? It's the same shit you would do if given any power. You just think you're more entitled to power than jews. You don't disagree with the strawman, you just want to be the strawman.
kek at that youtube channel
Of course you would watch that kind of slop, OP
Yes.
I would also like to publicly admit that I was wrong about the pagers NOT being filled with High Explosives. Apparently that was the case. I didn't seriously think Israel and Mossad had so successfully infiltrated Hezbollah's logistical system that they had been intercepting pager and radio systems for months.
Apparently, it wasnt even that. It was...more complex.
Basically, they scared Hezbollah into giving up their Iphones by proving they had hacked them, and heard that they were going to take time to switch over to pagers and radios over the next several months. In that time, Israel had set up a legitimate company selling legitimate pagers and radios to get street cred, but there was nothing officially connecting it to Israel. Then they used their own people within Hezbollah to get them to take an order from this company, and when the contract was approve that order was sabotaged. And the sabotage was a small amount of heat-activated explosives, and when the order came down they would hack the pagers and cause the batteries to overload and therefore heat up (which would also activate the explosive) .
Quite frankly, if this was a James Bond movie, we would say it is too complex to ever work. But sometimes reality is really stranger than fiction (like when Audie Murphy had to leave out parts of his military career from his biographical movie because people didnt believe them).
because usually people in movies have limited resources to make the story more interesting. give me the entire western world as an ethical and religious friend in baby-eating as well as trillions in make-believe money and i can also pull impossible movie stunts.
I mean, I didn't think they'd pull that off. Like I said before, what are the chances that nobody disassembles their phone or radio just to be careful, or doing a repair, or even causes one to accidentally detonate?
But yeah, none of them decided to try and tear apart these radios, either to inspect them, or repair them. That's just lazy.
Israel's attack was much more believable. Which is why he's fucking amazing.
If you build the explosive into the battery assembly, no one is disassembling it because no one is going to cut open a lithium cell.
Would it be built into the battery, or into the phone?
I said "battery assembly" for a reason. Take the real battery, put the charge on the one side, add a layer of packaging to make that entire unit look like a slightly larger battery.
Now it's in the device, but the odds of someone disassembling "the battery" are miniscule. They might remove it and replace it with a legitimate battery during regular use, but they're not going to dissect the tampered one.
Good on you for having the character to do this.
Well, thank you, Margarine. That's very kind of you.
Well, that was (thankfully) seemingly pretty anticlimactic I guess. Let's keep it that way, please.
Israel really seems to want another Six-Day War, though.
I would to! Jesus. That's basically the goal of every invasion: get in, get out (Unless you're a fucking Neo-Conservative like Paul Wolfowitz). If you're being taken over by Communists, and the war ends in 6 days, that's a hell of a lot less blood and treasure lost than a fucking 5,10,30, or 100 year long fucking war.
Not sure the Israelis will suffer the same kind of ass-spanking like back in the mid-late 2000s, but one could hope.
I'm wondering if the end goal here is Syria? Maybe because the Ukraine-Russia thing isn't going anywhere and the attempt to ruin Syria by Turkish/Kurd/US invasion didn't work? To my knowledge, Russia is allied with Lebanon and Syria.
"Ass spanking"? The second intifada was bloody, but it wasn't the Yom Kippur War. And that's one of the few major set-backs Israel ever really had. Frankly, the history of Arab armies attack Israel has been noticeably terrible.
The end goal in Syria is to build a second pipeline outside of Ukraine. That's the whole reason for the existence of the FSA, and the majority of the Syrian revolution.
I'm actually glad to see at least someone else talk about this. The Syrian Civil War kind of got memory-holed long enough that people forget that a lot of the current fighting in Black/Mediterranean Sea areas is still over oil/gas prices.
The whole damn thing is. Almost the entirety of the 21st century geo-politics can be found in and around Burisma.
Calm down, psycho.
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