Looting from the people and places you have conquered is a bit different from stealing from your own populace, though both are theft in one form or another.
I might be getting confused with another European country but I think it was Britain where some amateur archaeologist finds something like gold coins, jewelry etc but when they go to announce what they find they have it seized from them and only get a placard next to it in a museum, no monetary reward or the option to sell it to a private collector.
I mean, when I can call the British empire 'the most infamous international drug cartel and grandiose thieves as they'd display what they stolen' and that isn't leftist hyperbole but historical fact, they have a point to shoot at the redcoats...
Though credit where credit is due, they did have a style about it since a lot of those former colonies VOLUNTARILY joined the commonwealth after, like inviting the guy that robbed you to Sunday lunch.
The largest landowner in the world currently is King Charles III of England. How much land does the Royal Family own? He and the British Royal Family own more than 6,600,000,000 acres of land around the world. They technically own many territories around the globe, amounting to 1/6 of the surface of the planet. The family owns land in the United Kingdom, Canada, and beyond.
Second on the list is the Catholic Church. Their 177 million acres are located throughout the world and include churches, schools, and farms. They also own many religious landmarks like the Scala Sancta and the Apostolic Palace as well as farmland.
In third are the Inuit people of Nunavut in Canada. According to the Nunavut Land Claims Agreement Act of 1993, the government of Canada and the government of the Northwest Territories granted the Inuit people ownership of a separate territory called Nunavut, which is about 87 million acres in size. It was (and still is) the largest land claim settlement in the history of Canada.
So stop bitching at white people about stolen artifacts, and address the owners, the royal family and the church.
Seesh.
Im tired of being told I need to feel guilty for my ancestors, when my ancestors never owned slaves or killed/exploited people for their shit.
Its a book scan so the letters are garbled a bit but it is free.
A child of God at his worst, hath no true, or real evil upon him, but only the appearance, or outside of the same. A wicked man at his best, hath nothing but that which seemeth to be good, and is (indeed) evil.
That the soule of a childe of God is safe, in the worst estate he can be in, in this life; but a wicked mans soule is in most danger when his estate is at best.
These were some big ideas for the 1600's. This was when the church was the sole messenger of god and interpreting gods will on your own was considered blasphemy.
What about Daniel Wing who wasnt a quaker himself, but refused to persecute them.
In Bowden’s History of the Society of Friends in America, it is mentioned that “two English Friends, named Christopher Holden and John Copeland came to Sandwhich on the 20th of the 6th month” of 1657[31] and there they found friends of toleration and resisters of an oppressive law in Daniel Wing, the son of John Wing and Deborah Bachiler, and grandson of Stephen Bachiler. Daniel Wing and his brother Stephen Wing and others resisted an oppressive law in the town of Sandwhich which publicly punished men and women by whipping, for “meetings at private houses, for encouraging others in holding meetings, for entertaining the preachers and for the unworthy speeches”. By 1658, Daniel Wing, with others who acted with him, became active converts and there were 18 families who recorded their names in the documents of the society. Writers of 1658-1660 said “We have two strong places in this land, the one at Newport and the other at Sandwhich; almost the whole town of Sandwhich is adhering towards them” and the records of the Monthly Meetings of Friends show that the Sandwhich Monthly Meeting was the first established in America.[32]
What about asa wing who spent his life advocating for the end of slavery and was even part of the underground rail road.
For more than 10 years, until his death in 1854, Wing opened his Mexico(in new york state) home to slaves trying to escape bondage through the Underground Railroad.
As Wing grew increasingly ill, he kept a diary at his bedside. "There's so little that's in writing, " Dix said. "But his diary is more than what we have for a lot of people." He wrote about the families and lone fugitives he hid in his one-story, colonial-style home at 3392 State Route 69.
One such family was the Thompsons, a couple with five daughters who were escaping to Canada. They arrived at Wing's home on Christmas Eve 1850. After two weeks of searching for a trusted boat captain, the family was taken across Lake Ontario, but it is believed they drowned before they reached freedom, said Mexico historian Bonnie Shumway.
Shortly afterward, on March 8, 1854, Wing died of unknown causes. Frederick Douglass, a former slave and well-known abolitionist who was a close friend, delivered the eulogy at his funeral.
"He poured out his life for the perishing slave, pleading for him with an eloquence and earnestness which could scarcely have been more direct, pathetic and touching, had his own wife and children been on the auction block, " Douglass said at the time of Wing's death.
This is what our leaders want me to be ashamed of?
I guess we should just be authoritarian like china or india with their caste system.
Nope I better not be proud of anything, thats fucking white pride.
400 years of freedom in my blood, and I feel it.
Its killing me living in a crown country shit hole like canada. Literally, they refuse to give me medical help.
Stares at you intensely while pointing at the British museum...
They have precedent..
Looting from the people and places you have conquered is a bit different from stealing from your own populace, though both are theft in one form or another.
Some of the stuff in the museums wasn't JUST looted off the natives in other countries...
Alright. Would you please provide a specific example of an artifact or an incident that further illustrates your point?
I might be getting confused with another European country but I think it was Britain where some amateur archaeologist finds something like gold coins, jewelry etc but when they go to announce what they find they have it seized from them and only get a placard next to it in a museum, no monetary reward or the option to sell it to a private collector.
I appreciate the love for Britain that the British have.
But there's a reason why people shot at you.
I mean, when I can call the British empire 'the most infamous international drug cartel and grandiose thieves as they'd display what they stolen' and that isn't leftist hyperbole but historical fact, they have a point to shoot at the redcoats...
Though credit where credit is due, they did have a style about it since a lot of those former colonies VOLUNTARILY joined the commonwealth after, like inviting the guy that robbed you to Sunday lunch.
They were the best of a bad system. Even from countries that shouldn't be bad, like Netherlands, France, and Portugal, the atrocities are shocking.
Portugal laughing in genocides
French system resulted in the Vietnam war
Spain...well their shit just getting stolen by 'privateers' and then got bodied by America, less bad than South American rulers though
Overall, Brits weren't the worst, I'd say the worst thing they did was not federalise the empire so that de colonisation never happened.
I wouldnt confuse the royal family with the average citizen either.
The royal family is the largest land owner on the planet.
Followed by the catholic church apparently.
https://www.madisontrust.com/information-center/visualizations/worlds-largest-landowners/
So stop bitching at white people about stolen artifacts, and address the owners, the royal family and the church.
Seesh.
Im tired of being told I need to feel guilty for my ancestors, when my ancestors never owned slaves or killed/exploited people for their shit.
https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo2/A15580.0001.001?view=toc
Its a book scan so the letters are garbled a bit but it is free.
These were some big ideas for the 1600's. This was when the church was the sole messenger of god and interpreting gods will on your own was considered blasphemy.
What about Daniel Wing who wasnt a quaker himself, but refused to persecute them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Quakers
What about asa wing who spent his life advocating for the end of slavery and was even part of the underground rail road.
This is what our leaders want me to be ashamed of?
I guess we should just be authoritarian like china or india with their caste system.
Nope I better not be proud of anything, thats fucking white pride.
400 years of freedom in my blood, and I feel it.
Its killing me living in a crown country shit hole like canada. Literally, they refuse to give me medical help.
Nowhere did I say you have to be ASHAMED for the items the British ancestors...aquired over the years
I'm just saying, the British have a history of Locating and Obtaining Objects of Tradition.