Getting them to undermine their own argument, often times defeating it for me just to stay contrarian? Works surprisingly often.
Getting amusement? Works nearly everytime, and when it doesn't its because I fuck up and get a lesson to learn from.
Actually accomplishing anything? Never, people here are as NPC brained as most Leftists and cannot deviate from their programming enough to even engage with an argument outside of repeating buzzwords, points they got from Talking Heads, and doing everything to avoid admitting fault.
Ah, then not the definition of worked I was hoping for.
I do miss the old timers that were more for debating, few that they were. (even if I never participated)
Or perhaps that is just nostalgia, haha
Still it is a shame that people do not try to think about the talking heads are saying, to find flaws in it and adjust their view accordingly. (although the few talking heads I have talked to have similar problems.) I have had to do it many times and places such as this should be the best place to lose, since you are a nobody and there is no prestige to gain here, nor any worthwhile fame, nor comrades to truly lose. It is as little risk such a thing can have and still possibly hone it. Yet they cling to it. Why does the internet nomadic style not help them shed it?
They should release that each time they are shipwrecked that their past ideas does not matter nor their reputation and by now they should have wandered through many fields of ideas, which some should have influenced them? Is true humility something you are born with? Or is something only the beaten learn, haha
Just ignore my rambling, I just needed to type it out.
We can't have debates anymore because everything has become a virtue signal. Even in niche little shitholes like this, that have zero value, people are obsessed with making sure you know how much they hate the Jews (to use one example, it fits with any label really) and how every thing in existence is Jews.
No questions, no thinking. Just waiting for the next guy to say "actually it was even more Woke than you just said!" as he quotes some random screenshot and then every claps like seals.
And if you point out their source is flawed and doesn't make sense they will flip shit and accuse you of defending women and being a simp and yadayada. Even if you agreed the idea seemed possible, but the source saying it wasn't trustworthy and likely just grifting. They don't want to engage with the idea, they just want to be applauded for saying Nigger the loudest. And they've wrapped their ego and self-worth in being the rebel who says it, which means you questioning them is an actual attack.
Even someone who is educated and capable of debate, like Gitzortnik, will simply start shouting "STORMFAG STORMFAG" at you for trying to engage him on the topic, because his ego is that wrapped in being "the voice of reason" here about it.
Depends on what you call "worked."
Now you intrigue me, what is this definition of worked that it did accomplish?
Getting them to undermine their own argument, often times defeating it for me just to stay contrarian? Works surprisingly often.
Getting amusement? Works nearly everytime, and when it doesn't its because I fuck up and get a lesson to learn from.
Actually accomplishing anything? Never, people here are as NPC brained as most Leftists and cannot deviate from their programming enough to even engage with an argument outside of repeating buzzwords, points they got from Talking Heads, and doing everything to avoid admitting fault.
Ah, then not the definition of worked I was hoping for.
I do miss the old timers that were more for debating, few that they were. (even if I never participated) Or perhaps that is just nostalgia, haha
Still it is a shame that people do not try to think about the talking heads are saying, to find flaws in it and adjust their view accordingly. (although the few talking heads I have talked to have similar problems.) I have had to do it many times and places such as this should be the best place to lose, since you are a nobody and there is no prestige to gain here, nor any worthwhile fame, nor comrades to truly lose. It is as little risk such a thing can have and still possibly hone it. Yet they cling to it. Why does the internet nomadic style not help them shed it? They should release that each time they are shipwrecked that their past ideas does not matter nor their reputation and by now they should have wandered through many fields of ideas, which some should have influenced them? Is true humility something you are born with? Or is something only the beaten learn, haha
Just ignore my rambling, I just needed to type it out.
We can't have debates anymore because everything has become a virtue signal. Even in niche little shitholes like this, that have zero value, people are obsessed with making sure you know how much they hate the Jews (to use one example, it fits with any label really) and how every thing in existence is Jews.
No questions, no thinking. Just waiting for the next guy to say "actually it was even more Woke than you just said!" as he quotes some random screenshot and then every claps like seals.
And if you point out their source is flawed and doesn't make sense they will flip shit and accuse you of defending women and being a simp and yadayada. Even if you agreed the idea seemed possible, but the source saying it wasn't trustworthy and likely just grifting. They don't want to engage with the idea, they just want to be applauded for saying Nigger the loudest. And they've wrapped their ego and self-worth in being the rebel who says it, which means you questioning them is an actual attack.
Even someone who is educated and capable of debate, like Gitzortnik, will simply start shouting "STORMFAG STORMFAG" at you for trying to engage him on the topic, because his ego is that wrapped in being "the voice of reason" here about it.