She says that quotes from their communications cited have both of them specifically referring to "the Russians" when talking about their backers.
IIRC the Steele Dossier made similar statements about Trump's communications.
I don't believe this for a second. You wouldn't refer to "The Russians" being your funders. You'd say "Putin" or the name of the russian organization doing the funding. If you're a complicit spy/propagandist you don't say this AT ALL because you want to be on the up and up and know you're being spied on.
My guess is the actual quotes are more along the lines of "We've got to make sure our funding sources aren't coming from the Russians."
I watched Potentially Criminal (Sean Martin), a lawyer, review some of the indictment as well.
I didn't actually come across any parts where Chen and her husband explicitly refer to Russians in their communications.
The smoking gun in the parts he reviewed was Chen, apparently already under surveillance, googling "What time is it in Moscow?" when she didn't immediately receive a response to a request why their money to pay Rubin & Pool was 2 weeks late from their "Paris" contact.
Yeah coz - asking Siri “what time is it in Moscow” is a treasonous offense compared to telling the judge of the indictment that you were talking about “The Russians”
While trying to find background on Liam Donovan (who doesn't have much of an Internet footprint), I came across other non-Kim Iversen sources claiming the indictment specifically mentions Chen & Donovan openly referring to "the Russians".
Fwiw, I like Chen and don't really care that much about Russian funding.
The case does really hinge though, in the court of public opinion at least, if she knowingly and surreptitiously accepted Russian monies.
Listened to Kim Iversen tonight.
She personally read through the whole indictment.
Kim claims that the indictment specifically mentions that Chen & her husband were both personally aware of the Russian source of their funding.
She says that quotes from their communications cited have both of them specifically referring to "the Russians" when talking about their backers.
Ngo posted just after the above that they were raided, so that fits with what you heard.
IIRC the Steele Dossier made similar statements about Trump's communications.
I don't believe this for a second. You wouldn't refer to "The Russians" being your funders. You'd say "Putin" or the name of the russian organization doing the funding. If you're a complicit spy/propagandist you don't say this AT ALL because you want to be on the up and up and know you're being spied on.
My guess is the actual quotes are more along the lines of "We've got to make sure our funding sources aren't coming from the Russians."
I watched Potentially Criminal (Sean Martin), a lawyer, review some of the indictment as well.
I didn't actually come across any parts where Chen and her husband explicitly refer to Russians in their communications.
The smoking gun in the parts he reviewed was Chen, apparently already under surveillance, googling "What time is it in Moscow?" when she didn't immediately receive a response to a request why their money to pay Rubin & Pool was 2 weeks late from their "Paris" contact.
Yeah coz - asking Siri “what time is it in Moscow” is a treasonous offense compared to telling the judge of the indictment that you were talking about “The Russians”
While trying to find background on Liam Donovan (who doesn't have much of an Internet footprint), I came across other non-Kim Iversen sources claiming the indictment specifically mentions Chen & Donovan openly referring to "the Russians".
Fwiw, I like Chen and don't really care that much about Russian funding.
The case does really hinge though, in the court of public opinion at least, if she knowingly and surreptitiously accepted Russian monies.