This "real liberalism hasn't been tried" cope is no different than when the commies do it. Liberals are evil degenerate wastes of oxygen. Even the "good" ones.
Nothing was subverted. The current state of the left is inevitable. Going back to when it "worked" would just be a temporary hike up the slippery slope before we start sliding right back here again.
"Classical liberals" are either naive, or controlled opposition. With how self-defeating their views are, I am leaning to the latter.
I think they have evolved beyond the leftists and socialists. It’s a word wide death cult. We’re entering Logan’s Run territory now (minus the AI overlord but might just be a matter of when and not how.)
They are two versions of illiberals: Those who mistakenly assert that Liberalism has no boundary condition, and thus must be applied to all aspects of reality (rather than as a political framework); or are National Socialists: who see Liberalism as an arch-enemy that rebukes their collectivization.
Those are the two positions. Anyone who says otherwise is a liar who is attempting to obfuscate that they are either a generic illiberal, or a NatSoc illiberal.
Liberalism isn't designed to hunt down and murder children.
It's actually supposed to abhore that. These people are as far from Liberalism as you can get. These are Leftists & Socialists.
No True Scotsman.
This "real liberalism hasn't been tried" cope is no different than when the commies do it. Liberals are evil degenerate wastes of oxygen. Even the "good" ones.
Real liberalism was tried. it was subverted. What are you talking about?
Nothing was subverted. The current state of the left is inevitable. Going back to when it "worked" would just be a temporary hike up the slippery slope before we start sliding right back here again.
"Classical liberals" are either naive, or controlled opposition. With how self-defeating their views are, I am leaning to the latter.
"Leftism is inevitable", "Classical Liberals are controlled opposition"
Says the Leftist.
Yes, thank you Mr, Liberalism of 100 years ago. How’s that Victoria 2 game working out for you?
Good.
how does he know?
I think they have evolved beyond the leftists and socialists. It’s a word wide death cult. We’re entering Logan’s Run territory now (minus the AI overlord but might just be a matter of when and not how.)
Socialism is a death cult, though.
Its final form is. Socialism is the sweet promises before the punch is served.
Fair enough.
I think those down voting you don't know what a classic liberal is.
They know exactly what it is.
They are two versions of illiberals: Those who mistakenly assert that Liberalism has no boundary condition, and thus must be applied to all aspects of reality (rather than as a political framework); or are National Socialists: who see Liberalism as an arch-enemy that rebukes their collectivization.
Those are the two positions. Anyone who says otherwise is a liar who is attempting to obfuscate that they are either a generic illiberal, or a NatSoc illiberal.