You guys have thoroughly misinterpreted my post, never claimed it needed to be reinvented, they just overhype something that's already in existence and has been done a million times already. It's amazing how you've got the fanboi blinders on so hard purely because it's Valve because let's be real if it was an indie dev or some other company you hated you'd be posting the exact same thing.
I don't care for Valve one way or the other; I thought HL2 was overrated and never got into Counterstrike, and Steam is just a storefront, nothing more. The fanboy accusation falls flat.
In the smoke grenade example, it might technically be unimpressive, but that's entirely irrelevant. What matters is they were able to use that implementation to make a system that wowed people with its presentation. It doesn't have to be the first to do such a thing, just the one that gets most eyeballs on it. If firsts mattered, Ultima would still exist.
You're latching on to "fanboyism" because everybody that criticizes your position must have some intrinsic trait that makes them wrong, rather than accepting you might lack a complete understanding. Vox Day has a concept you should read up on called the "delusion bubble," even if you disregard the rest of the context around it.
You're latching on to "fanboyism" because everybody that criticizes your position must have some intrinsic trait that makes them wrong
No I'm not because I've made this exact same point regarding Call of Duty and people agreed with me back then, there's nothing different about this scenario in the slightest and again that was over multi-directional dodging. I think especially with the way Valve behaves these days and the total lack of standards in their publishing with steam people give them way too much unearned protection from valid criticism.
The most technically impressive thing I've seen them do is the steam deck, I wouldn't have even looked at that if it was a nintendo switch clone and closed source.
What matters is they were able to use that implementation to make a system that wowed people with its presentation.
Exactly, that's called hype and marketing which is the point I've been making, it's remarkable how people are trying to make it out I'm posting something which I'm not because these are not controversial opinions.
You guys have thoroughly misinterpreted my post, never claimed it needed to be reinvented, they just overhype something that's already in existence and has been done a million times already. It's amazing how you've got the fanboi blinders on so hard purely because it's Valve because let's be real if it was an indie dev or some other company you hated you'd be posting the exact same thing.
I don't care for Valve one way or the other; I thought HL2 was overrated and never got into Counterstrike, and Steam is just a storefront, nothing more. The fanboy accusation falls flat.
In the smoke grenade example, it might technically be unimpressive, but that's entirely irrelevant. What matters is they were able to use that implementation to make a system that wowed people with its presentation. It doesn't have to be the first to do such a thing, just the one that gets most eyeballs on it. If firsts mattered, Ultima would still exist.
You're latching on to "fanboyism" because everybody that criticizes your position must have some intrinsic trait that makes them wrong, rather than accepting you might lack a complete understanding. Vox Day has a concept you should read up on called the "delusion bubble," even if you disregard the rest of the context around it.
No I'm not because I've made this exact same point regarding Call of Duty and people agreed with me back then, there's nothing different about this scenario in the slightest and again that was over multi-directional dodging. I think especially with the way Valve behaves these days and the total lack of standards in their publishing with steam people give them way too much unearned protection from valid criticism.
The most technically impressive thing I've seen them do is the steam deck, I wouldn't have even looked at that if it was a nintendo switch clone and closed source.
Exactly, that's called hype and marketing which is the point I've been making, it's remarkable how people are trying to make it out I'm posting something which I'm not because these are not controversial opinions.