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its kinda weird how people keep comparing the UK police to the nazis. Nazis were not traitors to their country and would never protect foreign criminals in their country (media.kotakuinaction2.win)
posted 9 months ago by ger111 9 months ago by ger111 +127 / -12
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– CatoTheElder 12 points 9 months ago +15 / -3

They Allied with the Communists initially

And your side allied with them from 1917 to 1950.

They could have not gone to war at all, but Hitler wanted one because of his narrative. They could have stopped in France, but they were drunk on success. They could have stopped after Normandy, but the Sunken Cost fallacy kicked in, and Hitler would rather kill his best generals rather than be told that they couldn't win the war.

Why do you spew such easily disproved lies?

a recently unclassified high-level British Foreign Ministry memo noted 16 separate German peace attempts from September 1939-June 1941. The British and French declarations of war on Germany in September 3, 1939 came as a shock to Hitler. He was obsessed with making peace with Britain and France as he never wanted to fight them in the first place as all his territorial ambitions lay eastward. Interestingly, unofficial British policy from 1935–1939 was designed to encourage Hitler to channel his aggressions eastward towards the Soviet Union, which is exactly what he did. The British military guarantee of March 1939 marked a major departure from previous British policy and caused the Polish government to refuse to negotiate a peaceful resolution of the Danzig issue. Hitler had hoped to get Poland and Britain to ally with Germany against the USSR but Polish refusal to return the “free city” of Danzig when he had not asked for one single inch of Polish territory caused Hitler to invade Poland. He subsequently made peace offers to the Western Allies on September 2, 1939, October 6,. 1939, July 1940 and May 10, 1941 with many in between.

Churchill had become Prime Minister on May 10, 1940 and he was determined to continue the war until Germany was destroyed once and for all no matter how generous the peace terms offered by Hitler. Britain actually came fairly close to accepting peace with Germany was on May 28, 1940 during the so-called War Cabinet crisis when Halifax who had turned down the offer to become Prime Minister instead of Churchill, but who was still serving as Foreign Minister, persuaded the majority of the War Cabinet to negotiate a peace agreement with Nazi Germany on favorable terms to the British even threatening to resign before Churchill outmaneuvered him. Had Halifax resigned, Chamberlain likely would have resigned with him resulting in the call of a no confidence vote in the Churchill-led coalition government. That would have likely led to Halifax reluctantly agreeing to serve as PM with the full support of Chamberlain, who was still the leader of the Conservative Party, and the King to negotiate an end to the war. The terms of such a treaty likely would have been similar to the terms offered by Hitler in July 1940 and May 1941. The terms stated below were very favorable to Britain as they essentially would result in the retreat of all German troops from all nations occupied during the war but Poland and Luxembourg causing Germany to retreat to its October 1939 line of control without the need for a single drop of British blood to be shed.

The May 1943 American Mercury article summarized the terms of Hitler’s May 10, 1941 formal peace offer, which was confirmed by multiple British sources and typed in both German and English on official German Chancellory paper, as follows: “Hitler offered total cessation of the war in the West. Germany would evacuate all of France except Alsace and Lorraine, which would remain German. It would evacuate Holland and Belgium, retaining Luxembourg. It would evacuate Norway and Denmark. In short, Hitler offered to withdraw from Western Europe, except for the two French provinces and Luxembourg [Luxembourg was never a French province, but an independent state of ethnically German origin], in return for which Great Britain would agree to assume an attitude of benevolent neutrality towards Germany as it unfolded its plans in Eastern Europe. In addition, the Führer was ready to withdraw from Yugoslavia and Greece. German troops would be evacuated from the Mediterranean generally, and Hitler would use his good offices to arrange a settlement of the Mediterranean conflict between Britain and Italy.

No belligerent or neutral country would be entitled to demand reparations from any other country, he specified. The proposal contained many other points, including plans for plebiscites and population exchanges where these might be necessitated by shifts in population that has resulted from the military action in Western Europe and the Balkans. But the versions circulating in authoritative circles all agree on the basic points outlined above … Hess emphasized that his Leader would not quibble over details -- Britain could practically write its own peace terms.”

In addition, Hess stated that “Germany had no designs on America.” German leaders informed the British that Hitler was willing to commit to the “restoration of a Polish state” which presumably meant a Polish puppet state aligned with Nazi Germany (which would be much better than having Poland continue under direct Nazi rule) and wanted to negotiate the return of former German colonies which had been taken from Germany after World War I. They also told the British that Hitler agreed to preserve Britain’s full independence and keep all of its other colonial possessions even proposing a 25-year Anglo-German alliance in which Germany would offer the use of its troops to defend the British Empire, if necessary. One of the express terms of Hitler’s peace offer was “the resettlement of the Jews in Palestine.”

Pretty much all the American, British and French lives lost during that period can be blamed on Churchill because 7 of the 9 countries Germany had invaded between 1939–1945 would have been liberated if Hitler’s final peace offer to Britain hand carried by Deputy Fuhrer Rudolf Hess had been accepted while the Jewish Holocaust (which Hitler did not plan until the British refused two years of his pleas to deport them from Europe) would have been averted. If the US and UK didn’t fight Nazi Germany after June 1941, then Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union would have likely continued fighting for control of Eastern Europe for many years beyond actual history though a temporary armistice might have been reached. The Soviet Union would have been weakened hemmed in by Nazi Germany in Eastern Europe and Japan in the Far East so the US would not have had to fight a Cold War and lose 100,000 troops in Korea and Vietnam. The Pacific War likely never would have been fought. China and North Korea would never have fallen to Communist control and would be US allies today. Over 100 million innocent lives, including six million Jews, likely would have been saved.

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– Gizortnik -14 points 9 months ago +3 / -17

And your side allied with them from 1917 to 1950.

What, the Libertarians? Always opponents.

What, the Americans? Always opponents until each government saw an opportunity.

The British and French declarations of war on Germany in September 3, 1939 came as a shock to Hitler. He was obsessed with making peace with Britain and France as he never wanted to fight them in the first place as all his territorial ambitions lay eastward.

LOL. Hitler was expecting war with Britan and France since the annexation of Chekoslovakia. He couldn't believe that Chamberlain had given in. He was hoping to start a ware then and there. Instead Chamberlain gave him everything he wanted, including political security, and destroyed any attempt to overthrow Hitler from the anti-War movement in Germany that the Brits had previously worked with. Even Mussolini was originally supposed to be a check on Hitler's aggression before that backfired too.

Hitler had hoped to get Poland and Britain to ally with Germany against the USSR but Polish refusal to return the “free city” of Danzig when he had not asked for one single inch of Polish territory caused Hitler to invade Poland.

LOL. "The Poles made me invade them!". Poland was invaded with the full knowledge and support of the Soviet Union as they were allies under the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact. They had fucking parades together.

That whole second paragraph is retarded beyond recognition. Hitler never was prepared to surrender France and Belgium. I like the idea that Luxemburg is ethnically German, but not the Netherlands. K. The idea of leaving Greece? Total nonsense. If I even assume it to be real, it would be nothing but an utter lie by someone who's clearly winning.

Hess emphasized that his Leader would not quibble over details -- Britain could practically write its own peace terms.”

Hess was dead fucking wrong about all of that, not even close for a second. The man was trying to save a population he thought to be Saxon, and Hitler had no interest in helping a population he saw as already controlled by Capitalist jews.

“restoration of a Polish state” which presumably meant a Polish puppet state aligned with Nazi Germany (which would be much better than having Poland continue under direct Nazi rule)

That would have meant mass, intentional, famines at best. Which is what they got anyway.

They also told the British that Hitler agreed to preserve Britain’s full independence and keep all of its other colonial possessions even proposing a 25-year Anglo-German alliance in which Germany would offer the use of its troops to defend the British Empire, if necessary. One of the express terms of Hitler’s peace offer was “the resettlement of the Jews in Palestine.”

LMAO.

Of all the thigns that happened. This happened the most.

while the Jewish Holocaust (which Hitler did not plan until the British refused two years of his pleas to deport them from Europe) would have been averte

Ha ha ha! He started it before the war! This is just made up bullshit. "Well! I just tried everything I could! Now, I just have to kill all the jews!"

If the US and UK didn’t fight Nazi Germany after June 1941, then Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union would have likely continued fighting for control of Eastern Europe for many years beyond actual history though a temporary armistice might have been reached. The Soviet Union would have been weakened hemmed in by Nazi Germany in Eastern Europe and Japan in the Far East so the US would not have had to fight a Cold War and lose 100,000 troops in Korea and Vietnam. The Pacific War likely never would have been fought. China and North Korea would never have fallen to Communist control and would be US allies today. Over 100 million innocent lives, including six million Jews, likely would have been saved.

No aspect of any of this is true. Hell, there was no way that Japan wouldn't have continued to be aggressive against British, French, and American interests in the Pacific or China. And the State Department was already filled with Fabian Socialists, which means the US was always going to side with Mao eventually.

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– PraiseBeToScience 9 points 9 months ago +13 / -4

Lmao imagine admitting to being a Libertarian.

Yes you side allied with Marxists. And you still do it to this day.

And I can prove it with your answer to one question.

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– Gizortnik -9 points 9 months ago +4 / -13

Your question will be to conflate Liberalism and Marxism, then ask me a question about Liberalism, which I would affiliate with because Libertarians are from Liberal thought. But maybe I'm giving you too much credit (despite the fact that Marxism is illiberal). Maybe you'll ask me something truly retarded.

White Nationalists are literally just punk-ass National Socialists. Lesser versions of NatSocs. Imagine admitting you're a Socialist.

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– PraiseBeToScience 8 points 9 months ago +11 / -3

No my question is if Marxists have the right to speech and own guns.

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