Yahweh was a national god. After the life of Jesus, he was conflated with the universal God:
Yahweh[a] was an ancient Levantine deity, and national god of the Israelite kingdoms of Israel and Judah.[4] Though no consensus exists regarding the deity's origins,[5] scholars generally contend that Yahweh is associated with Seir, Edom, Paran and Teman,[6] and later with Canaan. The origins of his worship reach at least to the early Iron Age, and likely to the Late Bronze Age, if not somewhat earlier.[7]
In the oldest biblical literature, he possesses attributes typically ascribed to weather and war deities, fructifying the land and leading the heavenly army against Israel's enemies.[8] The early Israelites were polytheistic and worshipped Yahweh alongside a variety of Canaanite gods and goddesses, including El, Asherah and Baal.[9]
[wiki for Yahweh]
The term demiurge derives from the Latinized form of the Greek term dēmiourgos, δημιουργός, literally "public or skilled worker".[note 20] This figure is also called "Yaldabaoth",[73] Samael (Aramaic: sæmʻa-ʼel, "blind god"), or "Saklas" (Syriac: sækla, "the foolish one"), who is sometimes ignorant of the superior god, and sometimes opposed to it; thus in the latter case he is correspondingly malevolent. Other names or identifications are Ahriman, El, Satan, and Yahweh.
Lol, can’t be ruled out. Also, maybe the distinction between “spiritual being” and “alien advanced enough to visit earth” isn’t as hard as we might think at first glance
Of that collection, I’m especially fond of the Gospel of Thomas. Seems like a distillation of (H/h)is message to us without all the magisterium built up around it later by men. I copied and pasted it as a thread the other day:
Highly relavent to the conversation is also the exact nature of the jewish sect, the Essenes. Debatably, they were a proto-Christian jewish-gnostic messianic sect, who debatably produced the cultural milieu in which Christ was brought up, but most certainly did so for John the Baptist, who is referred to as Jesus’ cousin, indicating the increased potential for similar early influences.
But your comment alluded to the idea that the god of this earth was the war god and those other names. (I could get there to a point, this plane being the devils arena and the fallen thinking themselves gods) Are you saying Jesus is some gnostic guy? Maybe I'm misreading and getting hyper?
Archeo-anthropological research indicates that, in its earliest forms, israelite worship of Yahweh was as part of a pantheon, where Yahweh was not regarded as the supreme universal God, but instead as the National, War-God, of one specific people, “yahweh sabaoth”. [edit: here is a good video to introduce that notion]
Other research, such as that done on the Essenes, supports the claim that Jesus could have been raised in that sect’s interpretation of judaism, which by many indications was a more “gnostic” interpretation of judaism than we see elsewhere. “Gnostic” in this case meaning a system of spiritual insight based on self-directed practices (focused and prolonged meditation/prayer, ritual washing, etc) as opposed to the more common image of a religion as a top-down hierarchy of edicts/canon/magesteria and so on. They are also associated with far stronger rejection of the physical, or as you mention, the part of the world which satan is the prince of.
So I’m saying two things, the first a response to the OP’s title question, and the second an explanation for “Christians” believing this or atleast considering it.
Yahweh was a national god. After the life of Jesus, he was conflated with the universal God:
[wiki for Yahweh]
[wiki for gnosticism]
Atleast, that’s one theory.
Yahweh was a alien
Lol, can’t be ruled out. Also, maybe the distinction between “spiritual being” and “alien advanced enough to visit earth” isn’t as hard as we might think at first glance
Childhood's End ;)
That’s one (terrifying) possibility. (Did you know Clarke was likely a pedo? Wonder where/who he got his ideas from…)
Have you ever come across the Law of One or hidden hand material? I think they present a more positive potential reality
That's some story, where does it come from?
Some of the earliest extant Christian writing:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nag_Hammadi_library
Of that collection, I’m especially fond of the Gospel of Thomas. Seems like a distillation of (H/h)is message to us without all the magisterium built up around it later by men. I copied and pasted it as a thread the other day:
https://communities.win/c/Manna/p/17teNpu1o2/the-gospel-of-thomas/c
Highly relavent to the conversation is also the exact nature of the jewish sect, the Essenes. Debatably, they were a proto-Christian jewish-gnostic messianic sect, who debatably produced the cultural milieu in which Christ was brought up, but most certainly did so for John the Baptist, who is referred to as Jesus’ cousin, indicating the increased potential for similar early influences.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essenes
But your comment alluded to the idea that the god of this earth was the war god and those other names. (I could get there to a point, this plane being the devils arena and the fallen thinking themselves gods) Are you saying Jesus is some gnostic guy? Maybe I'm misreading and getting hyper?
Archeo-anthropological research indicates that, in its earliest forms, israelite worship of Yahweh was as part of a pantheon, where Yahweh was not regarded as the supreme universal God, but instead as the National, War-God, of one specific people, “yahweh sabaoth”. [edit: here is a good video to introduce that notion]
Other research, such as that done on the Essenes, supports the claim that Jesus could have been raised in that sect’s interpretation of judaism, which by many indications was a more “gnostic” interpretation of judaism than we see elsewhere. “Gnostic” in this case meaning a system of spiritual insight based on self-directed practices (focused and prolonged meditation/prayer, ritual washing, etc) as opposed to the more common image of a religion as a top-down hierarchy of edicts/canon/magesteria and so on. They are also associated with far stronger rejection of the physical, or as you mention, the part of the world which satan is the prince of.
So I’m saying two things, the first a response to the OP’s title question, and the second an explanation for “Christians” believing this or atleast considering it.