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"nooooo White people can't collectively defend themselves or they'll just be like the muslims"---some retarded lolbert. (media.kotakuinaction2.win)
posted 1 year ago by btbw 1 year ago by btbw +92 / -0
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– SR388-SAX 24 points 1 year ago +24 / -0

Having responsibilities and obligations does not remove someone's free will.

Hell, you have responsibilities and obligations to yourself: you have to feed yourself. If you don't, you'll die. Does that mean you don't have the right to exercise free will?

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– ApexVeritas 10 points 1 year ago +10 / -0

A family is more important than an individual, or the individuals that make it up.

Only a man and a woman can come together to produce children (i.e. a family). This ability to procreate continues the genetics of the man, the woman, the ancestors, the community/tribe, the nation, and the species. If your philosophy results individual freedoms but a birth rate below replacement level, then your philosophy is flawed, in part or whole.

This doesn't necessarily mean that individual freedoms should be curtailed, but that they're not the only consideration. Whether retarded brainwashed mainstream right wingers want to admit it or not, groups exist. We group up to pursue mutual goals. This is called collectivism.

For a group to continue to exist, several things must be done.

  1. The group must protect itself.

  2. The group must protect its members.

  3. The group must protect its borders, and gatekeep out undesirables.

  4. The group must control who enters.

  5. The group must espouse, enforce, and maintain certain standards, ideas, philosophies, and/or traits to keep the group healthy and homogeneous (along the lines of why the group exists in the first place), and keep the mutual goals of the group clear and followed by everyone within the group.

  6. The group must pursue things which enable it to continue to exist.

All of the above must be followed. If even one rule is abandoned, the group will cease to exist at some point in the future, depending on circumstance.

The mainstream right has swallowed the lie that individualism, by itself, is meritorious. It's not. It leads to death, since it completely abandons the group/collective. Healthy individuals produce a stronger collective, but healthy individuals who are atomized are really easy to conquer and control.

Some collective interests are more important than individual freedoms. like survival, and continuation of the species. People used to know this, which is why certain "freedoms" were curtailed (like women voting and entering the workforce en masse). Animals understand this intrinsically, too, as many will often die to protect their offspring, or even die so they can reproduce. And yet, so many coddled people today can't muster the courage to lay down their comforts to even express that anything is above "individual freedoms".

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– DistilledLife 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

You're strongly forgetting that a lot this mentality is reliant upon a society that still needs to survive all the basic dangers that Nature throws at it, and have hid it behind the word of "comforts". We've eradicated most common diseases and have overabundance of food in the West. The only remains of difficulty is monetary wealth to maintain survival, hence most of the urgency has dissipated. There's instinctual behaviors that maintain most of the group mentality but it's no longer necessary if one can survive alone.

Also we're realizing that throughout history most men never get or had gotten to reproduce. All the remaining ones either get killed in war or famine or by other means, but since post-scarcity has eliminated most of these issues, you have millions of idle hands just trying to survive on their own. The current state of technology has affected society such that it's incompatible with the old agrarian instincts. Excluding passing on genetics, most don't feel the need to follow the ancient rules, because why? The government also subsidizes overpopulation of detrimental groups that dilute the gene pool as the refuse adds and mixes their garbage genetics to it.

Most are going to die under this system eventually, whether the government intentionally kills them to free up resources or society falls apart from lack maintaining it. A lot of faggots here will get their wish of returning to group/tribal survival, it will just cost millions of bodies.

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