The presuppositions held by people like Straughn, and ironically guys like Mike Elam, are what got us into this mess in the first place. I'm not saying what they're doing is wrong, but equality and liberty for all is why we're posting on an alt-alt-social media forum in the first place.
The Enlightenment and its consequences have been a mistake.
This is the point where you loose the thread because the enlightenment isn't the cause of this at all, the enlightenment was the tiniest, merest blip of rationalism in the unending centuries of incantatism.
The moment was brief and glorious and of fucking course the people who crushed it had to steal its language and pretend to be carrying the torch of rationality.
The truth is the enlightenment died as swiftly as it came, and it's promise was forgotten until about 30 years ago, were again it lasted maybe a decade before being snuffed out with exteme prejudice.
Rationalism isnt an ideology, its a framework for decision making, and recognizing whether all people are or are not capable of it is fundamental to its nature. If the conclusion is that blacks as a class simply can't be taught, the enlightenment doesn't give them voting rights anyway because muh dignaty. Quite the contrary.
Yeah, I abandoned the MRA's as soon as I realized they were not traditionalists and on one of their podcasts they were saying brony hate was sexist against men, and how they would never recogonize men and women are different and as such there should be different roles and expectations. They still as you say were liberals and bought into that.
But many of what someone like Karen Straughn says in her youtube channel is useful to show people the true nature of feminism.
Unfortunately culture critics are so preoccupied with all the current modern bullcrap that they are woefully inadequate and uneducated on the topic of feminism. (See Matt Walsh for example).
Understanding feminism is like your basic arethmatic and people today are trying to figure out calculus (modern wokeness) while skipping basic arithmatic. This is why those channels focused on the evils if feminism are a must in that without that proper understanding, its like skipping boot camp and heading straight into war.
MRAs aren't tradcons. They never, ever said that they were. They are a valuable resource because they're one of the few groups that actually made some amount of noise.
Calling them "crypto-feminists" is retarded as fuck. If anything they're somewhat like lolbertarians, but their autistic focus is on men's rights and shitty family courts. That sometimes have overlap with disparate political group goals but it annoys me so many right wing bloviators refuse to interact with HBR and spend no time trying to understand them.
They have a shitload of information that everyone needs to know and I think a lot of people are shooting themselves in the foot ignoring them.
crypto-feminists? Can you explain?
The presuppositions held by people like Straughn, and ironically guys like Mike Elam, are what got us into this mess in the first place. I'm not saying what they're doing is wrong, but equality and liberty for all is why we're posting on an alt-alt-social media forum in the first place.
The Enlightenment and its consequences have been a mistake.
This is the point where you loose the thread because the enlightenment isn't the cause of this at all, the enlightenment was the tiniest, merest blip of rationalism in the unending centuries of incantatism.
The moment was brief and glorious and of fucking course the people who crushed it had to steal its language and pretend to be carrying the torch of rationality.
The truth is the enlightenment died as swiftly as it came, and it's promise was forgotten until about 30 years ago, were again it lasted maybe a decade before being snuffed out with exteme prejudice.
Rationalism isnt an ideology, its a framework for decision making, and recognizing whether all people are or are not capable of it is fundamental to its nature. If the conclusion is that blacks as a class simply can't be taught, the enlightenment doesn't give them voting rights anyway because muh dignaty. Quite the contrary.
Yeah, I abandoned the MRA's as soon as I realized they were not traditionalists and on one of their podcasts they were saying brony hate was sexist against men, and how they would never recogonize men and women are different and as such there should be different roles and expectations. They still as you say were liberals and bought into that.
But many of what someone like Karen Straughn says in her youtube channel is useful to show people the true nature of feminism.
Unfortunately culture critics are so preoccupied with all the current modern bullcrap that they are woefully inadequate and uneducated on the topic of feminism. (See Matt Walsh for example).
Understanding feminism is like your basic arethmatic and people today are trying to figure out calculus (modern wokeness) while skipping basic arithmatic. This is why those channels focused on the evils if feminism are a must in that without that proper understanding, its like skipping boot camp and heading straight into war.
MRAs aren't tradcons. They never, ever said that they were. They are a valuable resource because they're one of the few groups that actually made some amount of noise.
Calling them "crypto-feminists" is retarded as fuck. If anything they're somewhat like lolbertarians, but their autistic focus is on men's rights and shitty family courts. That sometimes have overlap with disparate political group goals but it annoys me so many right wing bloviators refuse to interact with HBR and spend no time trying to understand them.
They have a shitload of information that everyone needs to know and I think a lot of people are shooting themselves in the foot ignoring them.