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I want to pimp slap the FUCK out of every dipshit barking "FED!" like the fucking trained seal they are over the recent PF march around Nashville.
In a legal environment that can see federal police arrest you and send you to prison for praying outside an abortion clinic, why is it any surprise that right wing marchers have taken measures to protect their identity by wearing masks, and wearing similar business casual attire?
If you still think that "real MAGA doesn't wear masks," you are both terminally stupid, and totally fucking oblivious to the legal environment at large. I want nothing to do with you, or anyone else who thinks like you, because you are a liability to any real right wing protest movements.
Dumbasses like you are not smart enough to do anything but sit on your fucking couch and drink beer while watching sportsball. Your lack of OPSEC would get any group you came anywhere near rolled up in their entirety. That you are a dissident in your own fucking country hasn't even occurred to you, much less made you get off your fat ass and do something about it.
I don't give a shit if they are infiltrated by Feds, or have Fed informants, PF still goes and does marches. They do something, and learn operational experience, something the right does not have, and is FIFTY YEARS BEHIND THE LEFT ON.
/rant mode off
I swear, if any of you come at me with black pill despair, you get blocked. Come at me like one of the above trained seals I just ranted about, get blocked.
You're just making shit up.
The Tea Party were not feds. That's why the Republican Establishment co-opted them with the Tea Party Express, and proceeded to fundamentally castrate, exhaust, and destroy them.
The Proud Boys were mostly not feds, but were merely infiltrated by a couple, and monitored by them.
The Militia that was implicated in the Whitmer hoax assassination, was originally a legitimate separate organization, which was then infiltrated by federal agents, and then used party politics to secure control over the organization, pushed it into violent radicalism, and then nearly coerced the few remaining original members into participating in a ride-along that was presented as an assassination.
The Patriot Front is a whole different problem to all of these. They are a fully fabricated organization. The KGB actually did something similar and founded the single largest anti-Communist organization in Russia, and used it to monitor, control, manipulate, and subvert any and all internal, anti-Communist, Russian efforts. Every single leader of the organization was directly under the authority of the KGB, and the group itself was funded by the KGB. This is what Patriot Front are. An explicit controlled opposition organization solely dedicated to controlling, observing, surveilling, and imprisoning the right. Thankfully, they've gone full "White Nationalist race war" because the Left are fucking stupid, and have limited their ability to damage the rest of the dissident right... for the moment.
The last thing the political right needs is people advocating for an organization that is dead-set on suicide bombing the political right.
And considering the Alt-Right and White Nationalist movement have a penchant for aggressively working to destroy the dissident right by associating only the stupidest possible positions with them, followed by the most extreme rhetoric.... it's not a surprise that the Alt-Right are fucking littered with Feds. Ask James from The Red Elephants how fucking bad it is.
EXACLTY! But people like you called them feds.
Everything you accuse PF of doing, the PBs did. FFS Enrique Tarrio, the Chainman of the PBs, is more of an open a federal informant than Ray Epps. "infiltrated" is the understatement of the century.
What you don't get, what you refuse to see, is that attacking those people on the right who are putting their necks out there makes OTHERS less likely to do ANYTHING in the future. And why should they? No one likes daggers in their backs.
No, I didn't call them feds. They were obviously normal boomer cons both at the time, and now, and at the time I would have considered myself center-left.
No, I didn't accuse PF and PB doing the same thing. Enrique Tarrio worked with Federal Agencies to prevent violence. PF are explicitly federal agents, who are seeking to justify all available establishment narratives. They will cause violence when necessary to complete that mission, and will not engage in violence when it is necessary to complete that mission. There's a reason that PB are physically attacking members of PF: the vast majority of PB are not federal agents and know this. Whereas, the vast majority of PF are explicitly current law enforcement or confidential informants.
A) Patriot Front are not of the right. They are of Left-wing political enforcement regime.
B) Good. I want law enforcement to stop acting as political enforcement, and not engage in sabotaging the political right. I don't want Patriot Front to have rallies. I don't Patriot Front supporters to have rallies. I don't Patriot Front to engage in politics, and I don't want Patriot Front supporters to engage in politics. I certainly don't want their support because they are explicitly my enemy. Either because the Useful Idiots are too stupid to be trusted as allies, or because they are literally my enemy wearing an American flag that they would otherwise burn.
I said people like you. All the former military guys on FreeRepublic were saying "Don't go to TEA party rallies, they are there just to entrap you". It's the same shit from a different era.
So when the next group comes along and says deport the immigrants are you going to call them feds too? Are you going to call anyone that marches in a uniform feds? Where does it stop? What sort of action is not against your Rules of Engagement? Is voting the only thing allowed?
I don't remember anyone doing that. I do know that the Tea Party Express subverted them.
Only if they are federal agents.
No one really needs a uniform one way or another.
RoE doesn't apply here.
Voting is fine, so is protesting, so is Civil Disobedience, when done correctly, with good optics. Here is the Voice of Wales going over local efforts to prevent the construction and fulfillment of a refugee center in a local town.. In it, you see Civil Disobedience, logistics, financing, politicking, and a disciplined long term campaign.
That's a HELL of a lot different than an organization dedicated to fulfilling Left wing narratives by having 3 minute marches, funded and supplied by the government, to feed into Leftwing narratives. Members are only arrested so that they may be held for cameras, then released without charge, and recycled back into operations going forwards.
Patriot Front ONLY does the wrong thing and it benefits only the wrong people. They should never be supported under any circumstance.
Don't even label those goons "alt-right". They aren't. That's the leftist warping of language.
Fair enough.