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Another Day, Another single mom killing her kids (archive.is)
posted 2 years ago by Ahaus667 2 years ago by Ahaus667 +32 / -0
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– Ahaus667 [S] 12 points 2 years ago +12 / -0

I know it's orthodoxy here, and I believe there's a core of truth to it, but is that really true? Folks defending the system claim that most men don't even ask for custody, and that this explains a large part of this. What do you say to that?

This one is easily debunked, they are describing current numbers after the dust has settled so to speak. When you look at the rates since the adoption of no fault divorce it’s like a cliff drop in the past 20 years because any family lawyer will even tell you it’s an absurdly expensive process and you are at the complete whim of judges whose track records speak for themselves. The system created the no contests because it’s financially impossible for the 80% to win. This extends so far that even men who want to take their own children off the adoption list after their mother released them to the state will have to pay thousands in legal fees and court costs to do so.

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– AntonioOfVenice 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

OK, so the counter-argument is that actually asking for custody is prohibitively expensive, with little chance of winning, and that this is the reason why men don't do it. Sounds reasonable, but why is it not also expensive for the mother?

How can the mother even unilaterally put children up for adoption? Now that is crazy.

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– Ahaus667 [S] 15 points 2 years ago +15 / -0

Because the mother is granted custody by default under the law in every circumstance unless the state deems otherwise (in which case the state takes custody and chooses whether to release custody to the father). You add in the fact that men often have to pay for their ex wives lawyers because they are the “provider” and you can easily see why men go no contest, they simply can not afford to pay for two lawyers, alimony, child support, and court fees. Very few people in the country can afford that expense.

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– AnotherSchwarzesMark 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

I tried to argue this once and had people claim men get custody a lot, too. Then you look deeper in the cases where men get it and its almost always special cases where the mother is beyond unfit. And even then there's tons who are horrible mothers and did not lose custody. Women have it the easiest in custody battles, you could just claim the father hit the kids. Just a superficial glance can tell you women win most of the time and a deeper look into will show that even horrible women win and very, very rarely lose.

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– BlueHellScapeRefugee 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

How can the mother even unilaterally put children up for adoption? Now that is crazy.

Because despite the lies you peddle here fathers have no legal rights whatsoever.

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– HallucinatoryBeing 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

It isn't the first time Antonio simped for single mothers.

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