This is why i supported the pro Palestinian movement so that i could get a voice in the movement and correct this problem. But people didn't look at the bigger picture and instead went "both sides bad" without seeing the bigger picture. . White conservatives either supported israel or refused to have a voice in this conflict at all and have allowed jews to take over the Pro Palestine voice and who are now redirecting the movement to blame White people for zionism.
And supporting Palestine does not mean supporting muslims in western countries. Quite the opposite. Supporting Palestinians to be able to live safely in their own homeland without getting bombed by israel, means they wont be going to Western countries as refugees. Remember its israel's goal to try to push them on to Western countries
But people didn't look at the bigger picture and instead went "both sides bad" without seeing the bigger picture.
It helps that both sides do seem to be legitimately retarded, but I get your point.
The "pro-Palestine bad" argument is massively fucking astroturfed, so should be distrusted and critically examined. Again, I do think there's even some truth to the argument, but it's still made in such bad faith it's dangerous to consume it wholesale. "Pro-Palestine bad" is used as an excuse by people who hate us. It would be stupid to take it at face value just because there's some truth, when we'd take anything else the arguers say with a grain of salt.
Look, just being honest, the Palestinian movement is difficult to enthusiastically support because it's full of liars, often to a farcical extent since they suck at manipulation compared to their Jewish counterparts. It's also full of antifa and communists. Everyone in these groups is allergic to documenting evidence to an objective standard. It's all highly emotive agitprop.
America was founded on the Protestant ideal that the individual has a right to ask questions and honestly seek the truth by themselves. This is antithetical to the Arab idea of compulsion to action by collective grievance and tribal narrative.
This is where I agree: Israel is leveling multiple city blocks and killing thousands of children. They supported Hamas to undermine Palestinian statehood. They want to ethnically cleanse Gaza. They probably let 10/7 happen as a casus belli. In short, they love having an excuse to bomb people. This is evil no matter how each side twists the truth.
If jews can support the Palestinian movement to protect their own interests (by redirecting the Palestinian movement to blame Whites instead of jews for zionism. ) then White people can support the Palestinian movement to protect White interests to make sure White people don't get blamed for zionism and to make sure the blame goes to where it actually belongs and to make sure Palestinians stay safely in Palestine and not end up as refugees in the West.
You could say I'm supporting the movement by agitating against support of Israel. I try to bring up Israeli atrocities like the Nakba when I can, but you have to be careful about that because the details can get murky.
But lining up with the dumb kids at UCLA or Columbia? Nah.
How is correcting the lies that jews make about Whites "adopting jewish tactics"? And how is saying that israel is mass murdering Palestinians and forcing them out of their homes and making them suffer , "lying" when its true?
You can push for defunding Israel, even go down to the protests to do so, but why would you want to get caught up in the pro-Palestine nonsense? These people intentionally murdered civilians (even though Netanyahu obviously let them).
I just don't see the benefit of hitching your horse to this terrible wagon. You either enable the Zionists to equate being pro-Palistine with White Nationalism (which they would love), or the protestors actually attack you.
The solution, to both sides, is "foreigners, out".
You either enable the Zionists to equate being pro-Palistine with White Nationalism (which they would love)
No i don't think zionists would love that actually. Did you know Hitler supported Palestine? And do you know what happens when you tell Pro Palestinian people that Hitler supported Palestine? It confuses leftists that support Palestine because it humanizes Hitler and it also makes muslims more likely to support Hitler and understand the White nationalist world view better. it also makes it so that they realize White nationalists are not cartoon villains that can't have any sympathy for others at all.
This is why i supported the pro Palestinian movement so that i could get a voice in the movement and correct this problem. But people didn't look at the bigger picture and instead went "both sides bad" without seeing the bigger picture. . White conservatives either supported israel or refused to have a voice in this conflict at all and have allowed jews to take over the Pro Palestine voice and who are now redirecting the movement to blame White people for zionism.
And supporting Palestine does not mean supporting muslims in western countries. Quite the opposite. Supporting Palestinians to be able to live safely in their own homeland without getting bombed by israel, means they wont be going to Western countries as refugees. Remember its israel's goal to try to push them on to Western countries
It helps that both sides do seem to be legitimately retarded, but I get your point.
The "pro-Palestine bad" argument is massively fucking astroturfed, so should be distrusted and critically examined. Again, I do think there's even some truth to the argument, but it's still made in such bad faith it's dangerous to consume it wholesale. "Pro-Palestine bad" is used as an excuse by people who hate us. It would be stupid to take it at face value just because there's some truth, when we'd take anything else the arguers say with a grain of salt.
Look, just being honest, the Palestinian movement is difficult to enthusiastically support because it's full of liars, often to a farcical extent since they suck at manipulation compared to their Jewish counterparts. It's also full of antifa and communists. Everyone in these groups is allergic to documenting evidence to an objective standard. It's all highly emotive agitprop.
America was founded on the Protestant ideal that the individual has a right to ask questions and honestly seek the truth by themselves. This is antithetical to the Arab idea of compulsion to action by collective grievance and tribal narrative.
This is where I agree: Israel is leveling multiple city blocks and killing thousands of children. They supported Hamas to undermine Palestinian statehood. They want to ethnically cleanse Gaza. They probably let 10/7 happen as a casus belli. In short, they love having an excuse to bomb people. This is evil no matter how each side twists the truth.
If jews can support the Palestinian movement to protect their own interests (by redirecting the Palestinian movement to blame Whites instead of jews for zionism. ) then White people can support the Palestinian movement to protect White interests to make sure White people don't get blamed for zionism and to make sure the blame goes to where it actually belongs and to make sure Palestinians stay safely in Palestine and not end up as refugees in the West.
You could say I'm supporting the movement by agitating against support of Israel. I try to bring up Israeli atrocities like the Nakba when I can, but you have to be careful about that because the details can get murky.
But lining up with the dumb kids at UCLA or Columbia? Nah.
Adopting Jewish tactics is not a good idea. All it will do is corrupt us and make us vulnerable to Jewish control.
They fight with lies, we fight with truth. Lies might win in the short term, but they will always come back to bite you.
How is correcting the lies that jews make about Whites "adopting jewish tactics"? And how is saying that israel is mass murdering Palestinians and forcing them out of their homes and making them suffer , "lying" when its true?
No reason to side with either.
You can push for defunding Israel, even go down to the protests to do so, but why would you want to get caught up in the pro-Palestine nonsense? These people intentionally murdered civilians (even though Netanyahu obviously let them).
I just don't see the benefit of hitching your horse to this terrible wagon. You either enable the Zionists to equate being pro-Palistine with White Nationalism (which they would love), or the protestors actually attack you.
The solution, to both sides, is "foreigners, out".
No i don't think zionists would love that actually. Did you know Hitler supported Palestine? And do you know what happens when you tell Pro Palestinian people that Hitler supported Palestine? It confuses leftists that support Palestine because it humanizes Hitler and it also makes muslims more likely to support Hitler and understand the White nationalist world view better. it also makes it so that they realize White nationalists are not cartoon villains that can't have any sympathy for others at all.
Bruh.
Benefit's got nothing to do with it for him.