but if your jewish, (according to 98% of the users here, sit wide. and 70% of the users in KIA2 ) atheist, gay, or adulators, there is no repentance, and you go to hell.
This is just wrong, I've not heard anyone saying that. If you repent and then sin no more you are going to be forgiven. Being gay is not a sin, having same sex relations is.
As for being Jewish, I doubt that is a sin.
The only sin that is unforgivable is blaspheming against the Holy Spirit. at least as far as my limited knowledge.
#1 why should someone who's gay take what the bible says seriously?
Because it's the truth
#2 why would god make gay people?
I can't speak for God but from my point of view it is to test us. Different people have different obstacles to overcome, we learn from them. Sociopaths or pedophiles are also expected to control their urges. Average guy needs to not lust over women. You control yourself and then you realize that it is good to do so.
The prodigal son, in my opinion, is very much about this. Lets say you are gay, are in to the gay lifestyle and then abandon it. It is hard but you realize that you are much happier then before and God is there to welcome you back.
#3 a gay person could cherry pick the bible
They are free to do as they please. The beauty of truth is that it is there for you to learn, your opinion of it is inconsequential.
cherry pick the bible it's alright or you don't do it. when others you don't like do it they're not real christians.
I don't claim to be a "real Christian", I've turned my back to God for a long time, it is just for a few years I've returned. I'm not a "real Christian", I'm just a guy who believes in Jesus Christ and tries his best to learn what that implies.
pedophilia has been confirmed to be a legit mental disorder. and outside of right wing christian institutions... homosexuality is not
I don't care if it is a mental disorder or not, people seem to be split on that but it is irrelevant. I was responding to your argument not making a secular argument against homosexuality. Keep on point.
Being gay is not a self-destructive lifestyle. it's something your born as.
Also wrong by the way. There is no gay gene so there are other factors including molestation. There are genes that make it more likely to become gay yes. At most you can make the argument that it was not under your control.
Also The rest is just silly non-answers to my argument. You are making a secular, poorly made argument on why homosexuality should be acceptable and I make the argument that a homosexual would be happier if he embraced religion as long as it comes from his heart rather then forced upon him by society.
So... you just brushed off my opinion.
Yes, in a way. I can't talk for God nor am I an expert on the Bible, all I can say is that, for me, being a Christian means learning each day from my life and from scripture. "Cherry-picking" for most atheists means that there are instances we go against a scripture because we either don't know or we didn't understand it.
"your opinion doesn't matter in the eyes of the bible"
Also correct. Neither your opinion nor mine, nor the opinion of pickers of cherries.
This is just wrong, I've not heard anyone saying that. If you repent and then sin no more you are going to be forgiven. Being gay is not a sin, having same sex relations is.
As for being Jewish, I doubt that is a sin.
The only sin that is unforgivable is blaspheming against the Holy Spirit. at least as far as my limited knowledge.
It is in my book.
Because it's the truth
I can't speak for God but from my point of view it is to test us. Different people have different obstacles to overcome, we learn from them. Sociopaths or pedophiles are also expected to control their urges. Average guy needs to not lust over women. You control yourself and then you realize that it is good to do so.
They are free to do as they please. The beauty of truth is that it is there for you to learn, your opinion of it is inconsequential.
I don't claim to be a "real Christian", I've turned my back to God for a long time, it is just for a few years I've returned. I'm not a "real Christian", I'm just a guy who believes in Jesus Christ and tries his best to learn what that implies.
I don't care if it is a mental disorder or not, people seem to be split on that but it is irrelevant. I was responding to your argument not making a secular argument against homosexuality. Keep on point.
Also wrong by the way. There is no gay gene so there are other factors including molestation. There are genes that make it more likely to become gay yes. At most you can make the argument that it was not under your control. Also The rest is just silly non-answers to my argument. You are making a secular, poorly made argument on why homosexuality should be acceptable and I make the argument that a homosexual would be happier if he embraced religion as long as it comes from his heart rather then forced upon him by society.
Yes, in a way. I can't talk for God nor am I an expert on the Bible, all I can say is that, for me, being a Christian means learning each day from my life and from scripture. "Cherry-picking" for most atheists means that there are instances we go against a scripture because we either don't know or we didn't understand it.
Also correct. Neither your opinion nor mine, nor the opinion of pickers of cherries.