Good, that should be the message, now excommunicate anyone off message or tell them they aren't Christians.
If I recall correctly, you are an atheist, not a Christian. Christians don't want or need atheists telling them how to be Christians any more than they want or need Jews telling them how to be Christians.
Yep I'm an atheist, one that has studied not just religious philosophy so I fully grasp the understanding of being an atheist but also studied cults and how insidious they are.
I'll be honest, the institutions at the top of Christian religions, so not the grassroots, have been infected with cults. Ones that want to use the religious authority they've been given to promote their own agenda.
As an atheist, I WANT Christianity to be a strong religion as truth be told, you've had a lot of success keeping people morally in line compared to others and less likely to kill non believers like myself. You not fighting that corruption is what gives me concerns as at least the last time there was corruption at the top, believers had enough strength to break away from the Vatican to prove a point.
As an atheist, I WANT Christianity to be a strong religion as truth be told,
As an atheist, your goals for Christianity differ from the goals of Christians and the goals of Christ Himself. As your comment implies, you see Christianity only as a political tool to achieve your political aims. You see it as a way to enforce your desired moral outcomes, not God's moral outcomes. That is not Christianity.
In contrast, a Christian sees his religion as Truth. Christ is the Son of God. He is Lord and King. We obey Christ becomes it is our duty to so. He has tasked us with loving God and loving our neighbours as well as our enemies. Fundamentally, a Christian's main motivation is to achieve God's will, not the will of humans. Therein is the clear distinction between your goals and my goals.
In some cases, I may be able to work you to achieve particular aims. But I will not apologize for calling out your attempt to tell me how I should be acting as a Christian. If I need guidance, I will turn to prayer and the Holy Spirit, not a random atheist on the internet.
You do, of course, have the free will to become accept Christ in your life as King and Saviour and become Christian. It is my hope that you do so.
Forgiveness and "forgetting pasts entirely" are two different things you literal Somali-brain retard. Not all Christians are 70 year old winsome Evangelical boomers.
Christians also insist that we forgive the most run-through whores and marry them in their 30s.
Indeed, Christians must be willing to forgive the sins of others, as God forgives our sins. But whether you want to marry is entirely up to you. Everyone has their own calling. I have said so before, on this very forum.
In fact, I'd say if you are searching for true meaning in your life, you will only find in the Christ. You will not find it in marrying or having children, despite anything other Christians may tell you.
How is this not just good advice despite who says it?
Because there are no simple solutions to complex problems.
Because even if sometimes, as a weak human, I may sometimes desire my enemies to be destroyed or harmed, that may not be God's will. In fact, it is probably not His will, as I know He desires all of us people to be brought into His light and be saved.
Because the successor to the chair of Saint Peter, who Christ placed in charge of His Church, has not deemed that this is the correct response to those who spread what I consider falsehoods, so out of obedience and respect, I must be willing to accept that he knows better than me.
Because the successor to the chair of Saint Peter ...
So you're completely helpless against a hostile subversive force undermining your church.
And I'm not saying that's necessarily what's happened: I'm just pointing out that if it is, you've lost your church forever ... unless those subversives are kind enough to give it back to you one day.
Good, that should be the message, now excommunicate anyone off message or tell them they aren't Christians.
If I recall correctly, you are an atheist, not a Christian. Christians don't want or need atheists telling them how to be Christians any more than they want or need Jews telling them how to be Christians.
Yep I'm an atheist, one that has studied not just religious philosophy so I fully grasp the understanding of being an atheist but also studied cults and how insidious they are.
I'll be honest, the institutions at the top of Christian religions, so not the grassroots, have been infected with cults. Ones that want to use the religious authority they've been given to promote their own agenda.
As an atheist, I WANT Christianity to be a strong religion as truth be told, you've had a lot of success keeping people morally in line compared to others and less likely to kill non believers like myself. You not fighting that corruption is what gives me concerns as at least the last time there was corruption at the top, believers had enough strength to break away from the Vatican to prove a point.
As an atheist, your goals for Christianity differ from the goals of Christians and the goals of Christ Himself. As your comment implies, you see Christianity only as a political tool to achieve your political aims. You see it as a way to enforce your desired moral outcomes, not God's moral outcomes. That is not Christianity.
In contrast, a Christian sees his religion as Truth. Christ is the Son of God. He is Lord and King. We obey Christ becomes it is our duty to so. He has tasked us with loving God and loving our neighbours as well as our enemies. Fundamentally, a Christian's main motivation is to achieve God's will, not the will of humans. Therein is the clear distinction between your goals and my goals.
In some cases, I may be able to work you to achieve particular aims. But I will not apologize for calling out your attempt to tell me how I should be acting as a Christian. If I need guidance, I will turn to prayer and the Holy Spirit, not a random atheist on the internet.
You do, of course, have the free will to become accept Christ in your life as King and Saviour and become Christian. It is my hope that you do so.
Forgiveness and "forgetting pasts entirely" are two different things you literal Somali-brain retard. Not all Christians are 70 year old winsome Evangelical boomers.
Indeed, Christians must be willing to forgive the sins of others, as God forgives our sins. But whether you want to marry is entirely up to you. Everyone has their own calling. I have said so before, on this very forum.
In fact, I'd say if you are searching for true meaning in your life, you will only find in the Christ. You will not find it in marrying or having children, despite anything other Christians may tell you.
Christians don't want their own leaders to tell them how to be Christian either (surprise: it means accepting degeneracy)
https://twitter.com/TurnipMerchant/status/1662172265780264979
Also I like how the Episcopalian church sues individual churches after they vote to leave because they can't even vote that Jesus is Lord.
https://virtueonline.org/columbus-oh-episcopalians-refuse-affirmation-christ
You take an issue with:
because the messenger is atheist. How is this not just good advice despite who says it? This just comes off as childish, petulant foot stomping.
And related: why should anyone take the institutions of Christianity seriously when they clearly don't even take themselves seriously?
Because there are no simple solutions to complex problems.
Because even if sometimes, as a weak human, I may sometimes desire my enemies to be destroyed or harmed, that may not be God's will. In fact, it is probably not His will, as I know He desires all of us people to be brought into His light and be saved.
Because the successor to the chair of Saint Peter, who Christ placed in charge of His Church, has not deemed that this is the correct response to those who spread what I consider falsehoods, so out of obedience and respect, I must be willing to accept that he knows better than me.
So you're completely helpless against a hostile subversive force undermining your church.
And I'm not saying that's necessarily what's happened: I'm just pointing out that if it is, you've lost your church forever ... unless those subversives are kind enough to give it back to you one day.