Also, I wasn't really talking militarily but, if we were, it could be done. Those wars were unnecessary and shit, and I'm not advocating for it, but they could have been done right. World superpowers have taken over vast swathes of the world before, they could do so again. They just keep being retarded about it.
The only reason we lost Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, etc. is because we deliberately handicapped ourselves by trying to limit civilian casualties. Because we did this, the enemy simply blended in with the civilians, and our own media gleefully took potshots at us for killing civilians regardless of whether or not they were harboring the enemy.
You cannot fight an entrenched insurgency that hides among the very thing you are trying to protect. You have to decide whether or not that thing is worth protecting, and if it isn't, you either treat it as a casualty of war, or don't go to war in the first place.
This is something that the ancient civilizations understood. Sulla would never have tolerated Islamic terrorists. He would have genocided every Muslim he saw before allowing them to continue slaughtering Roman citizens. Yet today we allow all sorts of foreigners and minorities to invade us and kill us at will.
Our society is so longhoused that we would rather die out than be considered racist.
And you are describing perfectly what Israel is doing. And it's disappointing to see people like Joe Rogan starting to call it a genocide.
Well, you know what? What Israel is doing might be a genocide, but it's the Palestinians' fault because they're doing what you describe - hiding among the civilians. Israel made the choice that they won't be stopped by that fact, and a lot of civilians are getting butchered.
But those civilians voted for and support Hamas, so... FAFO?
Either way, I don't have a side in this and it shouldn't involve me.
Well, you know what? What Israel is doing might be a genocide, but it's the Palestinians' fault because they're doing what you describe - hiding among the civilians. Israel made the choice that they won't be stopped by that fact, and a lot of civilians are getting butchered.
I think the thing that bothers me the most about the whole Israel thing is that they don't just get it over with and kill all the gentiles in the country. I mean, they clearly want to. They have no qualms about bombing civilians to get to Hamas. Why the pretense? They bitch and moan about the holocaust while persecuting an ethno-religious minority in their own backyard, and they either don't see the hypocrisy or don't care.
I would honestly have more respect for the Israelis if they would just get it over with. Instead they are making sure the torture of the Muslims in their country is as long and drawn out as possible. And then periodically when they get bored they get us to go harass the Muslims outside of Israel.
I can't really blame Hamas for the tactics that they are using, because they work, and they will continue working until the Israelis decide that the cost of harboring the Muslims isn't worth the effort anymore.
That requires a will modern westerners do not have. All the best weapons mean nothing if you will not use them. Give me a normie with the highest of high tech weaponry vs the most primitive of cavemen armed with only a rock and I will put my money on the savage caveman every single time.
No, no, I've been told you'd need F16s and nukes.
Also, I wasn't really talking militarily but, if we were, it could be done. Those wars were unnecessary and shit, and I'm not advocating for it, but they could have been done right. World superpowers have taken over vast swathes of the world before, they could do so again. They just keep being retarded about it.
The only reason we lost Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, etc. is because we deliberately handicapped ourselves by trying to limit civilian casualties. Because we did this, the enemy simply blended in with the civilians, and our own media gleefully took potshots at us for killing civilians regardless of whether or not they were harboring the enemy.
You cannot fight an entrenched insurgency that hides among the very thing you are trying to protect. You have to decide whether or not that thing is worth protecting, and if it isn't, you either treat it as a casualty of war, or don't go to war in the first place.
This is something that the ancient civilizations understood. Sulla would never have tolerated Islamic terrorists. He would have genocided every Muslim he saw before allowing them to continue slaughtering Roman citizens. Yet today we allow all sorts of foreigners and minorities to invade us and kill us at will.
Our society is so longhoused that we would rather die out than be considered racist.
And you are describing perfectly what Israel is doing. And it's disappointing to see people like Joe Rogan starting to call it a genocide.
Well, you know what? What Israel is doing might be a genocide, but it's the Palestinians' fault because they're doing what you describe - hiding among the civilians. Israel made the choice that they won't be stopped by that fact, and a lot of civilians are getting butchered.
But those civilians voted for and support Hamas, so... FAFO?
Either way, I don't have a side in this and it shouldn't involve me.
I think the thing that bothers me the most about the whole Israel thing is that they don't just get it over with and kill all the gentiles in the country. I mean, they clearly want to. They have no qualms about bombing civilians to get to Hamas. Why the pretense? They bitch and moan about the holocaust while persecuting an ethno-religious minority in their own backyard, and they either don't see the hypocrisy or don't care.
I would honestly have more respect for the Israelis if they would just get it over with. Instead they are making sure the torture of the Muslims in their country is as long and drawn out as possible. And then periodically when they get bored they get us to go harass the Muslims outside of Israel.
I can't really blame Hamas for the tactics that they are using, because they work, and they will continue working until the Israelis decide that the cost of harboring the Muslims isn't worth the effort anymore.
Yeah...
Israel is certainly not a "good guy" -- and Hamas definitely isn't a "good guy" either. Ergo, I don't care.
That requires a will modern westerners do not have. All the best weapons mean nothing if you will not use them. Give me a normie with the highest of high tech weaponry vs the most primitive of cavemen armed with only a rock and I will put my money on the savage caveman every single time.