I know we all get tired of meta posts, but this has been a complaint for ages.
Can we please simplify the rules and then enforce them equally and consistently? As is, we've had pretty sporadic enforcement, where bad stuff - porn, clearly bad faith trolling, and pedophilia advocation, to name a few recent standouts - have stayed up for around a week. Meanwhile, some much less offensive stuff, from established and active members, sometimes gets taken down immediately, which just stifles discussion. (And, no, I was not moderated, this isn't me bitching about something done to me.)
This isn't Reddit; we don't need these rules. We can simplify this all down to 'no porn, no advocating illegal activity, and if you're a handshake you don't have human rights.'
I said we don't need this many rules. I never mentioned R16...
But since you asked...free speech? We shouldn't have rules against being wrong. I don't believe in "mis/mal/dis-information" being illegal, because I am neither a fed nor a normie.
"Do not attack entire identity groups as inferior or conspiring." Why not? If I want to say any group is inferior or conspiring, why shouldn't I be able to? Again, this isn't Reddit? We don't have admins looking over our shoulders. What if I think white people suck ass, or black people do, or Jews, or Arabs, or whatever? What if I don't like the gays or trans? Why shouldn't I be able to say that?
It's absurd. So, yeah, firstly, I'm not objecting to R16 specifically, but yeah, R16 is a retarded rule. Especially since it's not even effective. "Some Jews are literally evil" for example, does not violate R16. It's all inane.
Its a rule heavily influenced by Antonio's lingering influence from the old KIA2.
He was of the belief that constant Jew posting will drive out anyone else because they are both spergy, drive down the quality of discussion, and prevent other people from wanting to join the community. He and I argued about it a lot, even during that "private" KIA1 summit when KIA2 was forming.
And he wasn't entirely wrong. Most anti-Jew posters are annoying and do nothing but post (((the same jokes))) on every post without adding anything of value other than to say "is Jew, nuff said!!" I never agreed with it being banned and argued against it forever, but that's where the idea came from instead of something about admins and reddit.
Thought it being actually implemented was also heavily inspired by our Boi, Imp, to stop his constant sperging too. So it was never just Jews.
I assume that's also the reason for "THREE: Do not threaten, harass, defame, or bully users." To avoid driving away casuals.
Probably. KIA2 has had a long history of people who fucking hate each other just getting into infinite slapfights across months.
Its also the only rule I've consistently been hit by, as further proof that ones like 16 only apply if you are being a retard screaming about it, as I am of the firm belief that telling someone to kill themselves is my right on the Internet.
Well you did say "sane", but that IS the standard liberal foundational belief, isn't it? You can get them to admit that individuals are different, and that some people are better or worse than others. You can even get them to admit that when you gather groups of people together, measure the amount of "goodness" and "badness" among those groups, we can claim that some groups are overall better or worse than others. (say, a Boy Scout pack vs a street gang - though you've already lost the radical left at this point)
But taken as a whole, somehow all nations, races, and other demographics groups level off and are basically equal. "Oh there's bad apples in every bunch..." (except for media approved targets i.e. "nah them Catholic Priests are pedophiles man")