Also, for the non-Nordic people out there, like me...
Sweden doesn't really have personal/private laundries, like is the expected norm in most Western countries. Unless you're very wealthy, you just don't.
Living in a house, rather than an apartment, is unusual. Even in small towns. Therefore everyone is relying on these shitty communal laundries in their apartment buildings, and fighting over one or two machines for hundreds of people.
Because laundries are seen as "luxury items". As are cars. As are houses. As are fucking enclosed showers (i.e. not just a wet room).
But no public laundromats either. Because that would mean a) cash, and b) having to potentially talk to strangers, both of which are anathema to the "Swedish condition", in modernity...
This is a very fucking strange place, I gotta say. Like, fuck, you think Western Europe is "foreign"..? Try living here.
The 1970s (when "socialism" first came here, and the government began seizing property and demolishing private houses) have so much to answer for, in this stupid country...
Any country where windowless bedrooms (technically illegal in pretty much all Anglo countries, including the US) are not just legal, but encouraged, is no "socialist utopia", whatever the propaganda may say...
Sweden doesn't really have personal/private laundries, like is the expected norm in most Western countries. Unless you're very wealthy, you just don't.
Today I learnt that I was very wealthy :D, More seriously though you are not wrong in regards to most apartment blocks got this communal laundry mat. But in later years this has been moving away to some extent and even some apartments due to the problems with modern culture has been upgrade to have it inside.
Still private laundries are nowhere to be found. And yes cash is almost not used by the old people these days and we are pushing the digital ID.
Example of communal laundry there was another video someone linked with example of the system (Government monopoly on alcohol) among other things.
Any country where windowless bedrooms (technically illegal in pretty much all Anglo countries, including the US) are not just legal, but encouraged, is no "socialist utopia", whatever the propaganda may say...
You want to have the privacy to evade the quarrel created by the booking and usage of the communal laundry, it also helps against people throwing nades into your window xD
Slight rant, but I hate the communal laundry system... It is the dumbest, most open-to-abuse thing I have seen in a long time...
Allows for ridiculous shit like the bitch from yesterday booking out six hours over the course of two days, and then deliberately only using half the laundry for a brief time, but still complaining that someone impinged upon "her booking" (because again, I got there first, and I was finishing up when she arrived), and then to still fuck with everyone else (like she did with my washing), and keep her stuff in the dryer all afternoon...
Because unfortunately that's the reality of human interaction, and a system like this (plus not knowing your neighbours, because Sweden) opens the whole thing up to obvious abuse...
It feels, no offence, but very Swedish, to me. To just assume that a system like this will work, because "people respect each other" and "that's just how it is". And then to sweep it under the carpet when the "system" breaks down, ugh...
I had an ex who lived in an apartment building with the same system, in Sydney, but that was probably only 20-30 people sharing, so it was slightly less crazy. But yeah, even that experience, of staying with her, was enough to put me off the whole idea, lol.
I really don't understand why the garbage room is locked up, but the laundry is just open to the whole building like that. That's bizarre, to me.
It's kind of more like the opposite, in Aus, for the most part, tbh.
It feels, no offence, but very Swedish, to me. To just assume that a system like this will work, because "people respect each other" and "that's just how it is". And then to sweep it under the carpet when the "system" breaks down, ugh...
Yes, most sweden system operate with expectations of human behavior that I am certain is not followed, although it was more followed before the new culture came aboard.
And as I said before sweden was inspired by and adored the CCP and as you correctly point out such system requires people to know each other which is alteast in the modern swedish culture very disconnected.
I really don't understand why the garbage room is locked up, but the laundry is just open to the whole building like that. That's bizarre, to me.
Most modern communal laundry system ensure that the booked time it is locked for the rest of residents, this does not however improve the situation of scrambling for time other ways to abuse the system.
One positive thing I will say, though, is that people massively exaggerate how bad winter is, here (at least in Svealand and south of here. I haven't been particularly far north, sadly).
Like, if this country just embraced Winter more, and didn't attempt to hide from it/close everything for most of the day (lol at 11:00 to 16:00 opening hours), then it really wouldn't be that bad.
The weather is not the problem, IMHO... It's the weird fear of winter that is more "problematic", I feel. At least once you get used to the early sunset, which took me... Maybe one month, to adjust?
But yeah, maybe the "winter is coming" fear made sense for a culture of agrarian people, but not when you live in a city of a few hundred thousand, lol.
I will admit that it was incredibly depressing living out in "proper" rural Sweden for a while, when it started to get dark and cold. So I get that bit I guess. That sucked.
Yea, the southern winter ain't so bad, its worse up north.
Tbh, this fear of winter is not something I have encountered much, then again perhaps its part of the small town behavior.
I will admit that it was incredibly depressing living out in "proper" rural Sweden for a while, when it started to get dark and cold. So I get that bit I guess. That sucked.
Well, it ain't so bad if you got a fireplace, some good books and full pantry, hehe. But more serious yea the winter is the time were people seems to be more willing to stay home rather than venture out much.
Hopefully you find the city winter life to be better and miss the modern new year celebrations xD.
I can certainly attest to royally hating having a bedroom with a window facing East. Turns your room into a sauna at 7 or 8 AM until maybe the early afternoon, and without some really strong shades your room will turn into the brightest light show just about every morning.
Sounds like camping in Australia, in about six months of the year...
Almost literally impossible to sleep past 6:30am, ha. Great if you want to get up for a hike - not so good if you've been drinking around the campfire, or you're at a festival, from extensive experience, lol.
But yeah, we don't generally build with East-facing windows, for exactly this reason.
Aye, trying to sleep in with that room was pretty awful. And playing any PC games that use a hefty amount of your hardware would just add more fuel to the inferno, piling on the heat even more.
Also, for the non-Nordic people out there, like me...
Sweden doesn't really have personal/private laundries, like is the expected norm in most Western countries. Unless you're very wealthy, you just don't.
Living in a house, rather than an apartment, is unusual. Even in small towns. Therefore everyone is relying on these shitty communal laundries in their apartment buildings, and fighting over one or two machines for hundreds of people.
Because laundries are seen as "luxury items". As are cars. As are houses. As are fucking enclosed showers (i.e. not just a wet room).
But no public laundromats either. Because that would mean a) cash, and b) having to potentially talk to strangers, both of which are anathema to the "Swedish condition", in modernity...
This is a very fucking strange place, I gotta say. Like, fuck, you think Western Europe is "foreign"..? Try living here.
The 1970s (when "socialism" first came here, and the government began seizing property and demolishing private houses) have so much to answer for, in this stupid country...
Any country where windowless bedrooms (technically illegal in pretty much all Anglo countries, including the US) are not just legal, but encouraged, is no "socialist utopia", whatever the propaganda may say...
Today I learnt that I was very wealthy :D, More seriously though you are not wrong in regards to most apartment blocks got this communal laundry mat. But in later years this has been moving away to some extent and even some apartments due to the problems with modern culture has been upgrade to have it inside.
Still private laundries are nowhere to be found. And yes cash is almost not used by the old people these days and we are pushing the digital ID.
Example of communal laundry there was another video someone linked with example of the system (Government monopoly on alcohol) among other things.
You want to have the privacy to evade the quarrel created by the booking and usage of the communal laundry, it also helps against people throwing nades into your window xD
Slight rant, but I hate the communal laundry system... It is the dumbest, most open-to-abuse thing I have seen in a long time...
Allows for ridiculous shit like the bitch from yesterday booking out six hours over the course of two days, and then deliberately only using half the laundry for a brief time, but still complaining that someone impinged upon "her booking" (because again, I got there first, and I was finishing up when she arrived), and then to still fuck with everyone else (like she did with my washing), and keep her stuff in the dryer all afternoon...
Because unfortunately that's the reality of human interaction, and a system like this (plus not knowing your neighbours, because Sweden) opens the whole thing up to obvious abuse...
It feels, no offence, but very Swedish, to me. To just assume that a system like this will work, because "people respect each other" and "that's just how it is". And then to sweep it under the carpet when the "system" breaks down, ugh...
I had an ex who lived in an apartment building with the same system, in Sydney, but that was probably only 20-30 people sharing, so it was slightly less crazy. But yeah, even that experience, of staying with her, was enough to put me off the whole idea, lol.
I really don't understand why the garbage room is locked up, but the laundry is just open to the whole building like that. That's bizarre, to me.
It's kind of more like the opposite, in Aus, for the most part, tbh.
Yes, most sweden system operate with expectations of human behavior that I am certain is not followed, although it was more followed before the new culture came aboard.
And as I said before sweden was inspired by and adored the CCP and as you correctly point out such system requires people to know each other which is alteast in the modern swedish culture very disconnected.
Most modern communal laundry system ensure that the booked time it is locked for the rest of residents, this does not however improve the situation of scrambling for time other ways to abuse the system.
One positive thing I will say, though, is that people massively exaggerate how bad winter is, here (at least in Svealand and south of here. I haven't been particularly far north, sadly).
Like, if this country just embraced Winter more, and didn't attempt to hide from it/close everything for most of the day (lol at 11:00 to 16:00 opening hours), then it really wouldn't be that bad.
The weather is not the problem, IMHO... It's the weird fear of winter that is more "problematic", I feel. At least once you get used to the early sunset, which took me... Maybe one month, to adjust?
But yeah, maybe the "winter is coming" fear made sense for a culture of agrarian people, but not when you live in a city of a few hundred thousand, lol.
I will admit that it was incredibly depressing living out in "proper" rural Sweden for a while, when it started to get dark and cold. So I get that bit I guess. That sucked.
And so I left there, ahaha...
Yea, the southern winter ain't so bad, its worse up north.
Tbh, this fear of winter is not something I have encountered much, then again perhaps its part of the small town behavior.
Well, it ain't so bad if you got a fireplace, some good books and full pantry, hehe. But more serious yea the winter is the time were people seems to be more willing to stay home rather than venture out much.
Hopefully you find the city winter life to be better and miss the modern new year celebrations xD.
Huh, I always kind of preferred sleeping in a room without windows, maybe I’m psychotic?
I can certainly attest to royally hating having a bedroom with a window facing East. Turns your room into a sauna at 7 or 8 AM until maybe the early afternoon, and without some really strong shades your room will turn into the brightest light show just about every morning.
Sounds like camping in Australia, in about six months of the year...
Almost literally impossible to sleep past 6:30am, ha. Great if you want to get up for a hike - not so good if you've been drinking around the campfire, or you're at a festival, from extensive experience, lol.
But yeah, we don't generally build with East-facing windows, for exactly this reason.
Aye, trying to sleep in with that room was pretty awful. And playing any PC games that use a hefty amount of your hardware would just add more fuel to the inferno, piling on the heat even more.