No arguments here. That is the how the population of those states (and the nations they represent) have been for multiple generations.
Then why the splitting hairs and the argument that you can properly import non-whites as long as they're integrated?
What's the correct number for which we can declare racial ownership of some issue? I can find lots of right-wing rights who say that sentence. Damn near all of them.
That threshold is certainly below 85%, especially when Jews take leading roles in every major modern institution.
Rightwingers will not regurgitate that sentiment en masse - you've lost touch with reality on that one. Whatever the number is, it's smaller than you think and it's growing smaller every day.
And for the most part, the jews have been grateful for the treatment of American gentiles towards them; not antagonistic. This is one of the reasons why the US has the largest population of jews on earth. Where we see resentment is from Leftist indoctrination and ideological capture.
I could spend the whole comment on this paragraph. Jews give evangelical whites one of the lowest approval ratings among all groups, for instance. None of that addresses my point anyway that Jews are a uniquely exalted class that can hold the highest concentration of institutional power in America, hold dual loyalties, lead the entire Congress around by the nose, while simultaneously donning the mantle of the ultimate victim. Talk about reparations, Israel extracts billions of dollars from the US every year simply for existing.
If you don't want either, recognize the danger of any communist among the native population. If we're going to focus on whites, then you need to recognize the absolute plethora of white Leftists.
First of all, many white libs, if not most, are the result of deconstructive Jewish ideas that broke up white Christian hegemony, such as psychoanalysis, anthropology and cultural relativism (mentioned earlier), rejection of racial IQ or advantages, feminism, gay rights, the ADL, hardcore pornography, Onlyfans, the Frankfurt school, and of course, communism itself. In the 20th century, it's actually a challenge to find disruptive Gentile intellectuals like Kinsey and John Money.
Second, we do recognize the danger. I'm certainly not going to turn away any anti-communist because they're not white. I mean, I'm not white. But any serious discussion is going to lead to propaganda and indoctrination, which leads to wresting control of the narrative from the media and elites, in which wealthy Jews have a controlling stake.
That's just not true. America is one of the pinnacle examples of being able to integrate populations, even after mass migration. Whether that be the hordes of hessians, the flood of migrants from Europe, the mass importation of Blacks from slavery, the integration of natives, etc.
The problem is that party-boss systems that exploit ethnic division for their own purposes has been nationalized since the 60's, and the Republicans have played "loveable looser" for decades, allowing the left to dis- integrate, or re-segregate just about any ethnic group they could think of in order to consolidate power as they lost the white vote
First of all, America hasn't integrated any non-white population successfully. The natives are miserable and killing themselves, black people are self-explanatory, Asians vote Democrat, and so do Hispanics. But the cherry on top is that all of those groups will preferentially segregate to themselves both SOCIALLY and politically.
Second, the ethnic party-boss systems such as Tammany Hall are the result of human nature, and nothing that Republicans did would have stopped them.
Then why the splitting hairs and the argument that you can properly import non-whites as long as they're integrated?
Because it's not splitting hairs. You're operating off of the wrong premise, which leads you to wrong conclusions. You're just at the 'broken clock' time.
Rightwingers will not regurgitate that sentiment en masse - you've lost touch with reality on that one. Whatever the number is, it's smaller than you think and it's growing smaller every day.
I'm not being an asshole about this, but touch grass. I live in a majority right-wing normie area; and I promise you that most of them are only, slowly, begining to consider immigration and transgenderism a problem. You're more than 3 standard deviations from the norm at this point. As a libertarian (like), I'm two SD away. Your view is clouded by the permanently online veil.
I could spend the whole comment on this paragraph.
We might as well agree to disagree because the anti-white, anti-American sentiment of the political Left has basically made your claims about jews normal to just about everyone that's non-white, non-male, non-straight, non-cis, and non-christian.
Frankly, the Hamas-Israel war has shocked me to how little Israeli influence has on both parties, and bizarrely: the media. The biggest Israeli shill was Ben Shapiro... and that's about it. I saw way more Ukranian Jingoism in 2021 on both sides than I saw support for Israel on either. Instead, I saw a startling amount of rationalization and support for Hamas on the Left, and I'm the one who's been predicting a jewish pogrom.
Jews just don't have the kind of influence you think they do, and Israel doesn't either. They're losing to Qatar and Saudi Arabia.
In the 20th century, it's actually a challenge to find disruptive Gentile intellectuals like Kinsey and John Money.
That's just not true, and if you were being consistent, you'd assert that they too were operating from jewish deconstructionism. They're not, because it's not jewish. It's Leftist. It comes from Rousseau.
First of all, America hasn't integrated any non-white population successfully. The natives are miserable and killing themselves, black people are self-explanatory, Asians vote Democrat, and so do Hispanics. But the cherry on top is that all of those groups will preferentially segregate to themselves both SOCIALLY and politically.
This simply isn't true, and excusing away "White" integration is ridiculous anyway. The founding fathers, being Anglo-Protestants were highly concerned about the Germans, Irish, Catholics, Italians, Blacks, Indians, Scott, Scotch-Irish, and Jews. (Just go with me on the caps here for a minute, spell-check yells at me every time I don't capitalize those nouns). Each of them were integrated one at a time, and many were several of them were extremely violent. Many tribes were eventually integrated properly, but the problems their facing now is because they are living in what amounts to socialist states. The ones that simply integrated without reservations, have larger populations and prosperity now than at any point in there history (this is not uncommon among peoples' conquered by superior civilizations). Blacks were fine before they started adopting communism, and the welfare state which did more damage to them than slavery. In fact, American Blacks have culturally appropriated Scotch-Irish culture, which is one of the primary sources of their violent culture. We can't forget the Italians came from Naples & Sicily which had centuries of organized criminal culture that had to be undone with assimilation.
In each century, most of these groups integrated over time with the majority populations through sheer exposure, and accepting of the majority cultural norms (which were Anglo-Protestant in nature, and served to benefit the minority culture). We can see this in the initial rise of racial discrimination laws against different groups at local political levels and then the reversal of those laws as integration took place. Hell, we can even see different groups be integrated, while other groups struggle. Japanese integrated into white populations in the Post-Bellum south, but not in California. Blacks integrated a few decades after the great migrations to the north in the early 20th century, fairly well. Germans and Irish took a long time to integrate from the revolutionary and civil war eras respectively, but they did. Hell, we integrated the fucking Mormons.
However, for the past 70 years, the Left has sought to re-segregate and dis-integrate all of them, then promote mass migration to create colonies. This isn't an innate feature of all ethnic groups, it is an intentional effort by bad actors to destroy the very nature of America.
Because it's not splitting hairs. You're operating off of the wrong premise, which leads you to wrong conclusions. You're just at the 'broken clock' time.
I'm not being an asshole about this, but touch grass. I live in a majority right-wing normie area; and I promise you that most of them are only, slowly, begining to consider immigration and transgenderism a problem. You're more than 3 standard deviations from the norm at this point. As a libertarian (like), I'm two SD away. Your view is clouded by the permanently online veil.
Donald Trump swept the primaries in 2016 barnstorming on illegal immigration but Republican voters are just "beginning" to think it's a problem? Are you sure you know your neighbors?
Ditto for trannies, the suburban Democrats in Virginia voted Youngkin because of a tranny in a bathroom but Republicans don't care?? Even without my personal experience that's obviously not the case.
Frankly, the Hamas-Israel war has shocked me to how little Israeli influence has on both parties, and bizarrely: the media. The biggest Israeli shill was Ben Shapiro... and that's about it. I saw way more Ukranian Jingoism in 2021 on both sides than I saw support for Israel on either. Instead, I saw a startling amount of rationalization and support for Hamas on the Left, and I'm the one who's been predicting a jewish pogrom.
You are conflating the parties with the soldiers. The parties are largely establishment and have backed Israel consistently. The Democrat influencers and foot soldiers are golems that are turning on their masters.
That's just not true, and if you were being consistent, you'd assert that they too were operating from jewish deconstructionism. They're not, because it's not jewish. It's Leftist. It comes from Rousseau.
It's not true? Let's hash it out. Who are the Gentiles on your list? Dawkins and Dennett? Camille Paglia? The black scholars behind CRT?
Many tribes were eventually integrated properly, but the problems their facing now is because they are living in what amounts to socialist states. The ones that simply integrated without reservations, have larger populations and prosperity now than at any point in there history (this is not uncommon among peoples' conquered by superior civilizations).
This is an interesting claim. Where are these large populations of successfully integrated natives?
In fact, American Blacks have culturally appropriated Scotch-Irish culture, which is one of the primary sources of their violent culture.
LOL!!! I guess the Africans chopping off limbs and women's breasts are just appropriating Scotch-Irish culture as well
Donald Trump swept the primaries in 2016 barnstorming on illegal immigration but Republican voters are just "beginning" to think it's a problem? Are you sure you know your neighbors?
Lotta "We need real conservatives, like Mitt Romney" types out here. I doubt anyone on the normie right has any real concept of the actual level of long-term damage that the current rates of migration are. Most of those normie Republican votes were just worried about specific competition to working class jobs, and a sense of unfairness. None of them were thinking about demographics. The first time that started to even get registered with normie Republicans is when Tucker Carlson occasionally touches on it.
Ditto for trannies, the suburban Democrats in Virginia voted Youngkin because of a tranny in a bathroom but Republicans don't care?? Even without my personal experience that's obviously not the case.
You're over-estimate the effect of specific incidents. Most of the culture war stuff we harp on rarely gets the attention it should. As for the Democrats, they literally have no idea regarding anything we've ever said. Nobody I know IRL knows about the Loudon County rape case. Centrists think that "Republicans are starting a culture war issue to harass drag queens. Can you believe how dumb that is? Like we don't have other problems!" Meanwhile, Democrats actually think being gay is banned in Florida, there were no BLM riots in 2020, and the economy is actually fantastic. The veil of ignorance by the media is fucking incredible. And although they are losing power, their true influence is a scale that we simply haven't matched yet. Only Donald Trump, all by his lonesome on Twitter, ever even got close.
People believe that shit. They believe it with their heart and soul, and no amount of evidence around them will convince them otherwise. They are being predated upon by monsters and they don't know it.
The parties are largely establishment and have backed Israel consistently. The Democrat influencers and foot soldiers are golems that are turning on their masters.
Tons of foreign countries are trying to influence the US government, Israel is only one of them. Neither party is truly payrolled by Israel, just influenced by varying degrees and it is profoundly obvious that that influence has badly waned. Ben Shapiro is the best they have. From a tactical perspective, that's pretty bad.
This is an interesting claim. Where are these large populations of successfully integrated natives?
Kinda all around. Lots of them have been integrated into the US well outside of the reservation system. That's the beauty of assimilation rather than creating a socialist ethno-state. Off the top of my head, the Lumbee tribe seems to have done well as I recall.
LOL!!! I guess the Africans chopping off limbs and women's breasts are just appropriating Scotch-Irish culture as well
Those same Scotch-Irish were quite familiar with exactly those kinds of brutal tactics that they engaged in during the American Revolution, including "cutting off the breasts of a mother, carving out of a baby from the womb, and placing all 3 on a shelf. Paining in blood the words: "Thou Shalt Not Give Birth To A Rebel". That was from a British officer, recording an atrocity committed by an Royalist militia. These also happen to be the same people who, in the early 1600's, were also horrifically brutalized by English conquest with such savageries as being literally skinned at bayonet point. These were a people already well versed in violence and honor culture. Sowell goes over the social approval of the Scotch-Irish towards rather gruesome amounts of violence.
In Africa, you have different honor cultures, and different savageries. This is why when American Blacks settled Liberia, the native Liberians (who actually hadn't been significantly violent), were exposed to a brutal conquest and enslavement, with the creation of a near re-creation of a southern plantation society.
Lotta "We need real conservatives, like Mitt Romney" types out here. I doubt anyone on the normie right has any real concept of the actual level of long-term damage that the current rates of migration are.
Mitt Romney "fans" are severely outnumbered in the Republican voterbase, so you're the fish out of water, not me.
You're over-estimate the effect of specific incidents. Most of the culture war stuff we harp on rarely gets the attention it should. As for the Democrats, they literally have no idea regarding anything we've ever said. Nobody I know IRL knows about the Loudon County rape case.
Statewide in Virginia they definitely do. Anyway, I hear about trannies in schools from normie Republicans these days.
Tons of foreign countries are trying to influence the US government, Israel is only one of them. Neither party is truly payrolled by Israel, just influenced by varying degrees and it is profoundly obvious that that influence has badly waned. Ben Shapiro is the best they have. From a tactical perspective, that's pretty bad.
You're looking at Ben Shapiro and I'm looking at both parties voting in lockstep to approve every pro-Israel bill that comes up, including anti-BDS legislation. I'm also looking at Congress putting the presidents of Harvard and UPenn through a wringer and forcing their resignations for an anti-Jewish climate on campus while the anti-white campus climate has only drawn crickets for years. Many governments run influence operations - Israel's is the most successful by a huge margin.
Kinda all around. Lots of them have been integrated into the US well outside of the reservation system. That's the beauty of assimilation rather than creating a socialist ethno-state. Off the top of my head, the Lumbee tribe seems to have done well as I recall.
Maybe so. I don't know enough about non-reservation Indians to dispute that.
Those same Scotch-Irish were quite familiar with exactly those kinds of brutal tactics that they engaged in during the American Revolution, including "cutting off the breasts of a mother, carving out of a baby from the womb, and placing all 3 on a shelf. Paining in blood the words: "Thou Shalt Not Give Birth To A Rebel". That was from a British officer, recording an atrocity committed by an Royalist militia. These also happen to be the same people who, in the early 1600's, were also horrifically brutalized by English conquest with such savageries as being literally skinned at bayonet point. These were a people already well versed in violence and honor culture. Sowell goes over the social approval of the Scotch-Irish towards rather gruesome amounts of violence.
Violence as told in those stories is mostly done as part of a formalized process, as the linked example - two combatants meeting to duel in front of an audience. The spontaneity of black violence has never reflected those patterns and to suggest that freed slaves learned violent habits from the Scotch-Irish is, again, ridiculous. Is it the influence of the Scotch-Irish that causes mobs of Africans to stomp out other Africans? Or cut people's arms off for fun?
Then why the splitting hairs and the argument that you can properly import non-whites as long as they're integrated?
That threshold is certainly below 85%, especially when Jews take leading roles in every major modern institution.
Rightwingers will not regurgitate that sentiment en masse - you've lost touch with reality on that one. Whatever the number is, it's smaller than you think and it's growing smaller every day.
I could spend the whole comment on this paragraph. Jews give evangelical whites one of the lowest approval ratings among all groups, for instance. None of that addresses my point anyway that Jews are a uniquely exalted class that can hold the highest concentration of institutional power in America, hold dual loyalties, lead the entire Congress around by the nose, while simultaneously donning the mantle of the ultimate victim. Talk about reparations, Israel extracts billions of dollars from the US every year simply for existing.
First of all, many white libs, if not most, are the result of deconstructive Jewish ideas that broke up white Christian hegemony, such as psychoanalysis, anthropology and cultural relativism (mentioned earlier), rejection of racial IQ or advantages, feminism, gay rights, the ADL, hardcore pornography, Onlyfans, the Frankfurt school, and of course, communism itself. In the 20th century, it's actually a challenge to find disruptive Gentile intellectuals like Kinsey and John Money.
Second, we do recognize the danger. I'm certainly not going to turn away any anti-communist because they're not white. I mean, I'm not white. But any serious discussion is going to lead to propaganda and indoctrination, which leads to wresting control of the narrative from the media and elites, in which wealthy Jews have a controlling stake.
First of all, America hasn't integrated any non-white population successfully. The natives are miserable and killing themselves, black people are self-explanatory, Asians vote Democrat, and so do Hispanics. But the cherry on top is that all of those groups will preferentially segregate to themselves both SOCIALLY and politically.
Second, the ethnic party-boss systems such as Tammany Hall are the result of human nature, and nothing that Republicans did would have stopped them.
Because it's not splitting hairs. You're operating off of the wrong premise, which leads you to wrong conclusions. You're just at the 'broken clock' time.
I'm not being an asshole about this, but touch grass. I live in a majority right-wing normie area; and I promise you that most of them are only, slowly, begining to consider immigration and transgenderism a problem. You're more than 3 standard deviations from the norm at this point. As a libertarian (like), I'm two SD away. Your view is clouded by the permanently online veil.
We might as well agree to disagree because the anti-white, anti-American sentiment of the political Left has basically made your claims about jews normal to just about everyone that's non-white, non-male, non-straight, non-cis, and non-christian.
Frankly, the Hamas-Israel war has shocked me to how little Israeli influence has on both parties, and bizarrely: the media. The biggest Israeli shill was Ben Shapiro... and that's about it. I saw way more Ukranian Jingoism in 2021 on both sides than I saw support for Israel on either. Instead, I saw a startling amount of rationalization and support for Hamas on the Left, and I'm the one who's been predicting a jewish pogrom.
Jews just don't have the kind of influence you think they do, and Israel doesn't either. They're losing to Qatar and Saudi Arabia.
That's just not true, and if you were being consistent, you'd assert that they too were operating from jewish deconstructionism. They're not, because it's not jewish. It's Leftist. It comes from Rousseau.
This simply isn't true, and excusing away "White" integration is ridiculous anyway. The founding fathers, being Anglo-Protestants were highly concerned about the Germans, Irish, Catholics, Italians, Blacks, Indians, Scott, Scotch-Irish, and Jews. (Just go with me on the caps here for a minute, spell-check yells at me every time I don't capitalize those nouns). Each of them were integrated one at a time, and many were several of them were extremely violent. Many tribes were eventually integrated properly, but the problems their facing now is because they are living in what amounts to socialist states. The ones that simply integrated without reservations, have larger populations and prosperity now than at any point in there history (this is not uncommon among peoples' conquered by superior civilizations). Blacks were fine before they started adopting communism, and the welfare state which did more damage to them than slavery. In fact, American Blacks have culturally appropriated Scotch-Irish culture, which is one of the primary sources of their violent culture. We can't forget the Italians came from Naples & Sicily which had centuries of organized criminal culture that had to be undone with assimilation.
In each century, most of these groups integrated over time with the majority populations through sheer exposure, and accepting of the majority cultural norms (which were Anglo-Protestant in nature, and served to benefit the minority culture). We can see this in the initial rise of racial discrimination laws against different groups at local political levels and then the reversal of those laws as integration took place. Hell, we can even see different groups be integrated, while other groups struggle. Japanese integrated into white populations in the Post-Bellum south, but not in California. Blacks integrated a few decades after the great migrations to the north in the early 20th century, fairly well. Germans and Irish took a long time to integrate from the revolutionary and civil war eras respectively, but they did. Hell, we integrated the fucking Mormons.
However, for the past 70 years, the Left has sought to re-segregate and dis-integrate all of them, then promote mass migration to create colonies. This isn't an innate feature of all ethnic groups, it is an intentional effort by bad actors to destroy the very nature of America.
Donald Trump swept the primaries in 2016 barnstorming on illegal immigration but Republican voters are just "beginning" to think it's a problem? Are you sure you know your neighbors?
Ditto for trannies, the suburban Democrats in Virginia voted Youngkin because of a tranny in a bathroom but Republicans don't care?? Even without my personal experience that's obviously not the case.
You are conflating the parties with the soldiers. The parties are largely establishment and have backed Israel consistently. The Democrat influencers and foot soldiers are golems that are turning on their masters.
It's not true? Let's hash it out. Who are the Gentiles on your list? Dawkins and Dennett? Camille Paglia? The black scholars behind CRT?
This is an interesting claim. Where are these large populations of successfully integrated natives?
LOL!!! I guess the Africans chopping off limbs and women's breasts are just appropriating Scotch-Irish culture as well
Lotta "We need real conservatives, like Mitt Romney" types out here. I doubt anyone on the normie right has any real concept of the actual level of long-term damage that the current rates of migration are. Most of those normie Republican votes were just worried about specific competition to working class jobs, and a sense of unfairness. None of them were thinking about demographics. The first time that started to even get registered with normie Republicans is when Tucker Carlson occasionally touches on it.
You're over-estimate the effect of specific incidents. Most of the culture war stuff we harp on rarely gets the attention it should. As for the Democrats, they literally have no idea regarding anything we've ever said. Nobody I know IRL knows about the Loudon County rape case. Centrists think that "Republicans are starting a culture war issue to harass drag queens. Can you believe how dumb that is? Like we don't have other problems!" Meanwhile, Democrats actually think being gay is banned in Florida, there were no BLM riots in 2020, and the economy is actually fantastic. The veil of ignorance by the media is fucking incredible. And although they are losing power, their true influence is a scale that we simply haven't matched yet. Only Donald Trump, all by his lonesome on Twitter, ever even got close.
Here, you need to truly understand the delusion here. Welcome to CNBC: the argument of a recession is dead, and there is no evidence of a struggling economy. We are facing a booming economy and the inflation crisis has been solved. Here's Jim Cramer, explaining that figures (which are always revised down), are evidence that the economy is literally "incredible". Jobs up! Wages up! Everything's great! ... This is why I believe his sole purpose in life is to lose people's life savings.
People believe that shit. They believe it with their heart and soul, and no amount of evidence around them will convince them otherwise. They are being predated upon by monsters and they don't know it.
Tons of foreign countries are trying to influence the US government, Israel is only one of them. Neither party is truly payrolled by Israel, just influenced by varying degrees and it is profoundly obvious that that influence has badly waned. Ben Shapiro is the best they have. From a tactical perspective, that's pretty bad.
Kinda all around. Lots of them have been integrated into the US well outside of the reservation system. That's the beauty of assimilation rather than creating a socialist ethno-state. Off the top of my head, the Lumbee tribe seems to have done well as I recall.
Those same Scotch-Irish were quite familiar with exactly those kinds of brutal tactics that they engaged in during the American Revolution, including "cutting off the breasts of a mother, carving out of a baby from the womb, and placing all 3 on a shelf. Paining in blood the words: "Thou Shalt Not Give Birth To A Rebel". That was from a British officer, recording an atrocity committed by an Royalist militia. These also happen to be the same people who, in the early 1600's, were also horrifically brutalized by English conquest with such savageries as being literally skinned at bayonet point. These were a people already well versed in violence and honor culture. Sowell goes over the social approval of the Scotch-Irish towards rather gruesome amounts of violence.
In Africa, you have different honor cultures, and different savageries. This is why when American Blacks settled Liberia, the native Liberians (who actually hadn't been significantly violent), were exposed to a brutal conquest and enslavement, with the creation of a near re-creation of a southern plantation society.
Mitt Romney "fans" are severely outnumbered in the Republican voterbase, so you're the fish out of water, not me.
Statewide in Virginia they definitely do. Anyway, I hear about trannies in schools from normie Republicans these days.
You're looking at Ben Shapiro and I'm looking at both parties voting in lockstep to approve every pro-Israel bill that comes up, including anti-BDS legislation. I'm also looking at Congress putting the presidents of Harvard and UPenn through a wringer and forcing their resignations for an anti-Jewish climate on campus while the anti-white campus climate has only drawn crickets for years. Many governments run influence operations - Israel's is the most successful by a huge margin.
Maybe so. I don't know enough about non-reservation Indians to dispute that.
Violence as told in those stories is mostly done as part of a formalized process, as the linked example - two combatants meeting to duel in front of an audience. The spontaneity of black violence has never reflected those patterns and to suggest that freed slaves learned violent habits from the Scotch-Irish is, again, ridiculous. Is it the influence of the Scotch-Irish that causes mobs of Africans to stomp out other Africans? Or cut people's arms off for fun?