But not just because they have confidence in their beliefs or the will to fight...If you believe something, my preference is just fucking say it...Attack DeSantis shilling on the basis of why it's wrong, not simply on the basis that they're willing to defend their views
I think that's part of the point. OP (and I) are calling out the argument style, not necessarily the argument itself. People can believe what they want, and I don't hate people who want DeSantis. But Correia's argument does come off as elitist and manipulative, in my opinion. It's a silly and somewhat underhanded argument, that reeks of superiority. I'm admittedly biased, but still, I don't like how this comes off.
Eh, caustic asshole talk rolls right off my back I guess so can overlook his tone. I hate manipulative though, so if he's being manipulative I'd prefer to call him out for that directly. Are the people he's (vaguely) claiming are happy not actually happy? Call him a tard for that by all means.
But if we're bothering with tone, I dislike the "Ooooh, mr bigshot thinks he's so smart doesn't he fellas?" tone of the post's title even more than smug asshole tone of Larry. I don't like that slope down to performative ignorance. If I think I'm obviously smarter than someone I'd like to preserve the right to respectably rub it in their faces and vice versa.
I think that's part of the point. OP (and I) are calling out the argument style, not necessarily the argument itself. People can believe what they want, and I don't hate people who want DeSantis. But Correia's argument does come off as elitist and manipulative, in my opinion. It's a silly and somewhat underhanded argument, that reeks of superiority. I'm admittedly biased, but still, I don't like how this comes off.
Why do you imagine dialectic does anything at all? Rhetoric is all that matters.
Eh, caustic asshole talk rolls right off my back I guess so can overlook his tone. I hate manipulative though, so if he's being manipulative I'd prefer to call him out for that directly. Are the people he's (vaguely) claiming are happy not actually happy? Call him a tard for that by all means.
But if we're bothering with tone, I dislike the "Ooooh, mr bigshot thinks he's so smart doesn't he fellas?" tone of the post's title even more than smug asshole tone of Larry. I don't like that slope down to performative ignorance. If I think I'm obviously smarter than someone I'd like to preserve the right to respectably rub it in their faces and vice versa.