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Why is everything so FAKE these days? Have you got a minute? - [HyperNormalisation] - a documentary by Adam Curtis (m.youtube.com)
posted 2 years ago by Graphenium 2 years ago by Graphenium +20 / -0
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– Graphenium [S] 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

It’s definitely from a certain perspective (lifelong establishment BBC filmmaker) - but I often find myself asking, when I hear an eyebrow raiser from one of his films (which they are most certainly full of), “is he actually wrong?”

To your specific example, do not many of Trump’s “supporters” (not the hardcore MAGA/MIGA-ites but more-so the kinds of people here and more generally on the dissident right) explicitly label themselves “accelerationists”?

I think he wants to explain the popular support for chaos, not a/the actual “why” for the chaos as revealed from behind-the-scenes

Unless I’m not getting what you meant by that, lol

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– FrozeInFear 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

Brexit and Trump's election are included in a list of generally bad things and calling them chaotic, as though supporters of those things need corralling.

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– Graphenium [S] 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Chaotic need not be synonymous with bad or evil, and like I said to assassin, from many perspectives those events were chaotic

Unless your whole comment is you trying to clarify what you think assassin meant by his comment, in which case: yeah, maybe

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– Assassin47 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Yes I see, it was just an interesting observation. I'm sure it was written from the limited perspective of a typical liberal normie, most likely to appeal to them. ZeroPercentCamoIndex's comment also indicates the filmmaker gave more nuanced picture than that blurb really let's on. I'll give this a watch.

Come to think of it I suppose the director didn't have anything to do with the description anyway.

And yeah whether we claim to be accelerationists or not, Trump is one attempt to answer an unbalanced equation some people call chaos.

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– BandageBandolier 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

“is he actually wrong?”

Well I liked the part where he unironically called a crowd pointing thousands of laser pointers at a helicopter as evidence they were "welcoming military intervention" and not even alluding to the possibility they were trying to make it impossible to fly.

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– Graphenium [S] 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Can you conclusively rule out the possibility that the people in Tahir Square, just after the army coop’d the (new) Muslim Brotherhood government, weren’t supporters of that action? By my understanding of things that was popularly supported (as well as supported by, for example, the American gov)

I doubt military helos can be brought down by laser pointers either

But I didn’t post the video to argue about it or defend claims made by the filmmaker in one direction or the other, so...what did you think about the other 2 hours and 30 minutes, lol?

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– BandageBandolier 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Nah, but I'm not making the claim that it's a sign of welcome. I'm just pointing out it's a little stupid to 100% assume that the supposedly internet savvy and organized protest can't possibly have also heard the widely held internet belief that laser pointers can make helicopter flight dangerous. And I'm not in the business of giving supposedly competent truthtellers even second chances anymore

As for the rest, it's obviously a film before am educational video. I listened to it doing other things rather than directly watching, which made it particularly apparent that it's about 50% emotional/foreboding music and 25% famous political soundbytes that were just there to keep the mood. The earliest parts were the most interesting as the older history is less well ingrained for me, the latter half didn't really deliver anything new to me, but it's probably a good primer for normies who still have the bizarre faith that their leaders wouldn't just boldly lie to them on a daily basis.

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– Graphenium [S] 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Ahh, I find much of the effect of his movies comes from the shifting contrast/agreement between what you’re seeing, hearing, and thinking, so I imagine only half watching would lead to a far less impactful version of things.

If you at all enjoyed it, especially for its historical insights, I think you’d enjoy far more some of his earlier work on more obscure subjects. There’s another comment chain in this thread which lists some of the best ones he’s done

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