I remember a few years ago, religious conservatives and social (i.e. not religious) conservatives seemed to be in agreement on countless issues. Hell, I remember having numerous religious conservatives approve of me saying that I may be a non-believer, but I would defend their right to worship how they chose, because we agreed on the important things. They shared the same views, they would just come at them from a different starting point (religious conservatives would come at it from the starting point of their faith, societal conservatives would come at it from a starting point of their own sense of right and wrong). But in the past few months I've noticed that religious conservatives have taken to attacking anyone--conservative, republican, or otherwise--who doesn't share their belief system and/or religion. I don't really understand this, as the only thing it's doing is driving people away from the conservative/republican side, and pushing them into either just abstaining from voting, or refusing to participate in any political discourse, which won't exactly solve problems, as we need every person that we can get to defend our society against the degenerates that are trying to destroy it.
Did Trump "losing" in 2020 really fracture the right that badly? I'm not sure that's the case, because this is something that I've only really seen come to the forefront in the past year or so.
I don't know what to make of it. It's honestly beginning to seem like some people on the right are laser focused on becoming the weird puritans of the 90s who were mocked to no end and did more harm to conservative values than they did to further them.
And before anyone accuses me of saying that religious people should embrace atheism or give up their own faith, that's not what I'm getting at at all. I'm merely saying that if we want conservative values and common sense to come back to society, we need to fight for that and not fight each other. If there needs to be any bickering between different "factions" on the right, I think we'd all be better off if we did that after the psychotic leftists are removed from the picture.
There seems to be this crazy purity spiral that's forming on the right, and I'm afraid that what's going to happen is that we're going to all become so focused on our own particular brand of conservatism that we're going to lose sight of the big picture, and we're going to end up losing our society to radical leftists.
I'm still dead set on fighting against the degenerate leftists in society. I don't foresee myself leaving this fight anytime soon, mainly because I don't need anyone's approval to stand up for the things that I believe in. But not everyone is like me, and if we drive those people away, we're never going to win another election, after all a vote is a vote. And then it doesn't matter if you were a religious conservative or societal conservative, your values are going to vanish from our society just like every other conservative/Republican's values.
Atheism/ agnosticism was thrust into the default state of government under Obama. You can see the results of this around the same time as the “atheist golden age” on the internet, the simple fact of the matter is young, stupid atheists and color revolutions go hand in hand. Even in your own writing you place yourself as a victim, provide no sourcing other than your feelings and go hurr durr 90s conservatives, when it was Tipper Gore who made the explicit lyrics warning label, the left who censored South Park over displaying Mohammed, and on and on. Your sad alternative reality is exactly why you’re not getting it, grow up.
I'm not a victim here my dude, I'm merely writing from my own viewpoint. And I'm mainly talking about groups like 90s/early 2000s era Fox News and their likely viewers, the types who cried and had meltdowns over DOOM, or Mass Effect's romances and nudity.
Believe me, I know that Tipper and the PMRC were a scourge upon society, and I'm not exempting them, I'm merely saying that overly conservative types in the 90s were an issue too, and not exactly people we should be trying to emulate.
EDIT - Also, what do you mean by "grow up"? I'm not attacking anyone for their faith, and I don't begrudge anyone for their faith. As a matter of fact, I wholeheartedly support people having religion. It's just not something for me, it hasn't been for years upon years. I'm not going to sit here and tell you that you're stupid or that you are wasting your time. I'm not some Reddit-tier atheist with a fedora. It's not my place to begrudge your faith or attack it, that's not what this country is about, we have the right to freedom of religion and that applies to all of us. I understand that our society is built upon Christian values, and I have no problem with that. I'm not going to sit here and argue that our founding fathers weren't Christian or some stupid shit like that, I literally just believe that the Christian faith--ANY faith--isn't for me. You're free to worship how you want, and I will defend you for exercising that right.
Considering all the forced gayness in games now, they had a point, it took less than ten years for the left to turn everything to shit, the “slippery slope” was a slippery dead drop.
Again under what basis ? Having stable communities? Not wanting their children exposed to sex and drugs on television or in games? Can you name one thing about the social environment today that is better than the “conservative environment” of the 90s/ early 2000s?
All I'm saying is that a lot of the conservative Christians of the '90s were arguing for the exact same kind of weird censorship that so-called progressives on the left are arguing for today. If the end goal is the same, it really doesn't matter where you're starting point is. I don't stand for censorship from either side, I never have and I never will. Censorship only breeds an underground, "black market" alternative. I remember hearing that GoldenEye 007, of all games, should be banned because it was too "realistic" in it's depictions of violence. Again, I'm not saying that ultra conservatives of the '90s were worse than what the left is today. All I'm saying is that they were almost identical to todays far leftists and their calls for censorship.
So, to answer your second point there...no I can't say that there's anything better about society today, but I can say that it's almost the exact same bullshit, just from a different side. That's my whole point. We shouldn't be seeking to emulate the morons on the left who want to be purity police.
Funny, because I remember Hillary Clinton and Tipper Gore coming within a hair's breadth of getting videogames federally regulated and modding effectively banned nationwide.
And the left of the 90s, the key difference is how conservatives changed when access to information was freed up, and how the left regressed further. If you remember the early 90s the reason game like golden eye were vilified was to take the blame off single mothers raising an unprecedented wave of violent felons. Just as when the left tried to pretend the violent crime rate problem was reduced by abortion…