That's fucking retarded. And that's really saying something considering how stupid most 9/11 conspiracies are.
In both cases, 9/11 and Pearl Harbor (which you spelled with a k); these were cases of wild-eyed negligence. And I'm one of those few people who can explain why Pearl Harbor was left vulnerable to attack, but it doesn't mean FDR wanted the to see reports that made it look like the entire US pacific fleet was destroyed. Had the IJN not acted with shocking levels of ill-disciplined targeting, the USN really could have been wiped out.
FFS, it's like claiming Stalin was just using Hitler to gain sympathy when their alliance turned into a full-scale invasion of the Soviet Union.
Genuine false flags are small to the point where their occurrence is in question. A single ship. A single radio station. A single artillery barrage. That's all that's needed for a casus belli. That's all that's ever been needed. Everything after that is just propaganda and spin.
But actually allowing a major enemy offensive to take place and cripple your defenses? That's pants on head retarded. No one does that.
I know that I have, and considering your propensity to shill for israel every single fucking time it comes up, I’m going to guess I’m the only one of the two between us.
Honestly, there was enough actionable intelligence to respond to it, and there was enough time as well. We know the Navy, ONI, State Department, and FDR were well aware that a Carrier Strike Fleet had departed Japan and had been gone for so long that they had not appeared anywhere else in a timely manner, indicating they were headed for Wake Island, Hawaii, or Midway. No other targets take that long to get to, and there was no evidence it was a drill.
The State Department does admit to being all but fucking utterly smitten with the Japanese delegation who were making fake negotiations and peace deals up until Dec. 7th, so there's a possibility that the State Department didn't think there was a likely chance of attack... but that shows extreme negligence regarding the fact that a Carrier Fleet is on the move and hidden.
FDR absolutely tried multiple actions to provoke the IJN into a war, because geopolitically it seemed like it was a guarantee that Japan would have to stop immediately, or win immediately; and they didn't have the resources to just stop where they were without invading Australia.
Moving the entire fleet to Pearl Harbor was stupid, but there was a lot of intel that suggested the Navy would have spotted an attack far sooner than they could get to Pearl, and Pearl is one of the closest positions to the US that could have been attacked. Strategic analysis indicated Midway and Wake island were more likely... but that's not where the US Fleet was.
Putting the Pacific Fleet in one spot was only useful for rapid deployment, in the event of an attack, but everyone being in one spot is wildly dumb. You'd better have good surveillance... which the Navy didn't. They didn't send anywhere near enough scout planes to protect themselves. it was a mere fluke that the Carriers weren't docked, the Japanese intended to bomb them, but their luck wasn't high enough that day.
This tells us that the Roosevelt administration should have seen the attack coming, but they chose to ignore it. However, their stupidity is so devastating it could have destroyed them. If Japan had hit the ships they were targeting, hit the dry docks, hit the oil tankers, and hit the carriers; the USN would have been out of commission for over a year. And there was a moment in the Pacific where the US had one and only one functional carrier, so the odds were very close.
Japan played the State Department, but they failed to capitalize on an inconceivable opportunity.
That's fucking retarded. And that's really saying something considering how stupid most 9/11 conspiracies are.
In both cases, 9/11 and Pearl Harbor (which you spelled with a k); these were cases of wild-eyed negligence. And I'm one of those few people who can explain why Pearl Harbor was left vulnerable to attack, but it doesn't mean FDR wanted the to see reports that made it look like the entire US pacific fleet was destroyed. Had the IJN not acted with shocking levels of ill-disciplined targeting, the USN really could have been wiped out.
FFS, it's like claiming Stalin was just using Hitler to gain sympathy when their alliance turned into a full-scale invasion of the Soviet Union.
Genuine false flags are small to the point where their occurrence is in question. A single ship. A single radio station. A single artillery barrage. That's all that's needed for a casus belli. That's all that's ever been needed. Everything after that is just propaganda and spin.
But actually allowing a major enemy offensive to take place and cripple your defenses? That's pants on head retarded. No one does that.
Remember the Liberty, shill
Hey fag, which of us have read the transcripts from the pilots who fired on the Liberty?
I know that I have, and considering your propensity to shill for israel every single fucking time it comes up, I’m going to guess I’m the only one of the two between us.
I’m genuinely curious as to why Pearl Harbor was able to happen.
Honestly, there was enough actionable intelligence to respond to it, and there was enough time as well. We know the Navy, ONI, State Department, and FDR were well aware that a Carrier Strike Fleet had departed Japan and had been gone for so long that they had not appeared anywhere else in a timely manner, indicating they were headed for Wake Island, Hawaii, or Midway. No other targets take that long to get to, and there was no evidence it was a drill.
The State Department does admit to being all but fucking utterly smitten with the Japanese delegation who were making fake negotiations and peace deals up until Dec. 7th, so there's a possibility that the State Department didn't think there was a likely chance of attack... but that shows extreme negligence regarding the fact that a Carrier Fleet is on the move and hidden.
FDR absolutely tried multiple actions to provoke the IJN into a war, because geopolitically it seemed like it was a guarantee that Japan would have to stop immediately, or win immediately; and they didn't have the resources to just stop where they were without invading Australia.
Moving the entire fleet to Pearl Harbor was stupid, but there was a lot of intel that suggested the Navy would have spotted an attack far sooner than they could get to Pearl, and Pearl is one of the closest positions to the US that could have been attacked. Strategic analysis indicated Midway and Wake island were more likely... but that's not where the US Fleet was.
Putting the Pacific Fleet in one spot was only useful for rapid deployment, in the event of an attack, but everyone being in one spot is wildly dumb. You'd better have good surveillance... which the Navy didn't. They didn't send anywhere near enough scout planes to protect themselves. it was a mere fluke that the Carriers weren't docked, the Japanese intended to bomb them, but their luck wasn't high enough that day.
This tells us that the Roosevelt administration should have seen the attack coming, but they chose to ignore it. However, their stupidity is so devastating it could have destroyed them. If Japan had hit the ships they were targeting, hit the dry docks, hit the oil tankers, and hit the carriers; the USN would have been out of commission for over a year. And there was a moment in the Pacific where the US had one and only one functional carrier, so the odds were very close.
Japan played the State Department, but they failed to capitalize on an inconceivable opportunity.