It's been a while since I looked into it, but the data wasn't good when I did. The thing about circumcision is that it correlates with conservative sexual mores and more disciplined lifestyles in general. It's difficult to say that the benefits come from being cut vs. things that correlate with being cut. A lot of the studies also use Africans (as in ones living in Africa) so that further clouds them.
The thing about circumcision is that it correlates with conservative sexual mores and more disciplined lifestyles in general. It's difficult to say that the benefits come from being cut vs. things that correlate with being cut. A lot of the studies also use Africans (as in ones living in Africa) so that further clouds them.
You’re contradicting yourself here, if you’re going to argue it’s lifestyle not circumcision then the Africa data is a clear refutation of that. A 51-60% reduction in HIV transmission after implementation of circumcision isn’t just “certain lifestyles”.
There's a strong chance the cut Africans are at least somewhat Christianized, and the uncut are practicing shit like polygamy and cannibalism, pretty different lifestyles.
Except that the circumcision push was made by the WHO/ and UN, and the data compared pre circumcision rates to post. What I do find funny is these are all the leftist/ sexual revolution talking points with MRA paint on them.
Both sides of this have various nefarious actors pushing either PoV so focusing on that leads nowhere. You tried well-poisoning when your own supply is contaminated. It didn't work the first time, and it's not going to work no matter how many times you try it.
It's been a while since I looked into it, but the data wasn't good when I did. The thing about circumcision is that it correlates with conservative sexual mores and more disciplined lifestyles in general. It's difficult to say that the benefits come from being cut vs. things that correlate with being cut. A lot of the studies also use Africans (as in ones living in Africa) so that further clouds them.
You’re contradicting yourself here, if you’re going to argue it’s lifestyle not circumcision then the Africa data is a clear refutation of that. A 51-60% reduction in HIV transmission after implementation of circumcision isn’t just “certain lifestyles”.
There's a strong chance the cut Africans are at least somewhat Christianized, and the uncut are practicing shit like polygamy and cannibalism, pretty different lifestyles.
Except that the circumcision push was made by the WHO/ and UN, and the data compared pre circumcision rates to post. What I do find funny is these are all the leftist/ sexual revolution talking points with MRA paint on them.
vs.
Both sides of this have various nefarious actors pushing either PoV so focusing on that leads nowhere. You tried well-poisoning when your own supply is contaminated. It didn't work the first time, and it's not going to work no matter how many times you try it.
Just take the L.