Now we have the autistic to troon and the autogynephilia to troon pipeline, would you say that autism is related to autogynephilia or this 2 different pipeline?
The second and in some ways more socially important type is the male-only disorder of late-onset gender dysphoria. This is frequently (and perhaps always) related to a rather comic sex fetish called autogynephilia in which at puberty, a normally masculine boy begins dressing up in his mother’s lingerie and masturbating in front of the mirror, imagining himself as the beautiful girl he desires.
For reasons that I’ve never seen completely explained, those with the late-onset syndrome tend to be highly intelligent; ambitious in their stereotypically masculine careers (e.g., Tur insisted on being called “Chopper Bob”); fans of hard science fiction (with Robert Heinlein a favorite); and, often, not very nice. They tend to be highly insistent that others validate their sex fantasy about themselves and relentless trouble to those who won’t.
Thinking about that second paragraph a bit and the sort of "autists" who end up trooning (eg. programmers, pro video game players and speedrunners), there does seem to be some overlap in traits, with the possible exception of the "stereotypical masculinity" (though those fields still seem to be hyper-competitive).
It's because autists get easily lonely, I feel like this thread is drastically overcomplicating it. Since they get lonely, they make for easy targets for grooming, the porn really doesn't have much to do with it. It's the fact that they immediately get targeted and encourage by these predatory redditors that are the main problem. Thottery is also another element of society that takes advantage of these types of young teenagers and men, they try and lure them in with the promise of a girlfriend experience.
It's also far easier to join the tranny NPC faction and suddenly get accepted and popular than it is to be a straight white male and fight it out and a lot of autists can't take that precisely because they were probably fairly outcast in school etc. to begin with. It's why I bring up incels a lot as well because there's an incel-tranny pipeline and that's the same sort of thing. Many people even on this site don't get that it's not just about the sex, it's about loneliness and the fact that they can't form social bonds with anybody and it's fucking tons of guys up.
This is also why I'm in favour of accelerationism and I'm totally fine with porn being 'banned' because then I can just go "I told you so" to the right wingers and be right yet again on this issue.
I think u/ernsithe has it right. They're two distinct pipelines that have a small amount of coincidental overlap. Autists are easy to groom because they know something is off. That gives troomers an easy opening to convince them that trooning out is the answer to all their problems. The autogynephiles are just sexual deviants who won't keep their fetish in the bedroom.
Now we have the autistic to troon and the autogynephilia to troon pipeline, would you say that autism is related to autogynephilia or this 2 different pipeline?
Steve Sailer had an interesting article about the autogynephilia to troon pipeline where he discusses some of the common traits he's observed among members of that pipeline:
Thinking about that second paragraph a bit and the sort of "autists" who end up trooning (eg. programmers, pro video game players and speedrunners), there does seem to be some overlap in traits, with the possible exception of the "stereotypical masculinity" (though those fields still seem to be hyper-competitive).
It's because autists get easily lonely, I feel like this thread is drastically overcomplicating it. Since they get lonely, they make for easy targets for grooming, the porn really doesn't have much to do with it. It's the fact that they immediately get targeted and encourage by these predatory redditors that are the main problem. Thottery is also another element of society that takes advantage of these types of young teenagers and men, they try and lure them in with the promise of a girlfriend experience.
It's also far easier to join the tranny NPC faction and suddenly get accepted and popular than it is to be a straight white male and fight it out and a lot of autists can't take that precisely because they were probably fairly outcast in school etc. to begin with. It's why I bring up incels a lot as well because there's an incel-tranny pipeline and that's the same sort of thing. Many people even on this site don't get that it's not just about the sex, it's about loneliness and the fact that they can't form social bonds with anybody and it's fucking tons of guys up.
This is also why I'm in favour of accelerationism and I'm totally fine with porn being 'banned' because then I can just go "I told you so" to the right wingers and be right yet again on this issue.
I think u/ernsithe has it right. They're two distinct pipelines that have a small amount of coincidental overlap. Autists are easy to groom because they know something is off. That gives troomers an easy opening to convince them that trooning out is the answer to all their problems. The autogynephiles are just sexual deviants who won't keep their fetish in the bedroom.