This view has been echoed by many people on social media, with some commentators floating ideas such as restricting those under 18 to sleeping with those under 21.
This is not unreasonable.
The only 'age gaps' that this prohibits is when one is 16 or 17, and I'm perfectly fine with such a prohibition.
There is already a problem where girls develop quicker than boys during puberty. It wasn't unknown prior to mandatory ID checks on the doors of nightclubs for underage girls to get in to drink because they looked old enough. It works the other way too, many a time I see young women ask for a child ticket on the buses because the drivers don't ID them.
Are men and dating sites going to ask women for photo ID (which would have to apply to men too) with an increase in the age of consent to protect their backsides?
That's exactly what's going to happen and you're going to have to do it over video chat or something in order to avoid entrapment. Then these women who get asked are going to be all offended and men are going to have to meekly defend themselves while they get all screechy about it.
The thing is even if sanity manages to prevail in politics and this doesn't become a thing if the attitude that's just another in the long list of reasons why it's going to be impossible to be a man and stay in this country anymore because that's what this boils down to. If you have any self-respect and aspirations, if you try to date even a little below your age you're not welcome.
Also, no, to be clear, I'm not talking about teenagers, if they really are going to make the argument for women in their 20's aren't adults then that means as a guy you won't even be able to date a bit younger to find a girlfriend that's worth your time. This article was obviously written up by a bunch of permanently pissed off older women who have realised that they can't get laid anymore because of younger women so they're trying to pressure politicians over age of consent and using the frankly unrelated Russel Brand accusations to do it.
I just fucking can't anymore, this is why I posted, yes Russia is objectively better than this. I think if any Russians took a proper look at what the UK was doing or even the Chinese they'd think this is extreme and ridiculous. I would not even be shocked if they tried to make it illegal to be a passport bro and date women in foreign countries somehow.
Of course you are. You think all women are angels, so no women would take advantage of such legislation to manipulate and harm men. And yes, women. Because such laws are always only applied to men and never to women, such is the sexism prevalent in society that you seem to fully support.
I have mixed feelings on this. I just looked it up, age of majority is 18, while age of consent is 16. So, the 16/17 year olds you mention are still minors, and that's a group where I don't mind additional (reasonable) restrictions being placed upon. So in theory this is fine. In practice...perhaps also fine, but slippery slope is a concern, as are some other things I'll mention later.
I'm coming at it mostly from a US perspective, though, and we still technically have some rights, so the situation is a little different. But my main slippery slope concern is that age of consent and majority are linked in a lot of people's minds, so this could, down the road, be used to take legal adults' rights.
But the real issue, as others have mentioned, is that this will generally not be enforced equally, and I'm against all laws that have that issue. People lie, and a 21 year old could accidentally sleep with a 17 year old. Interestingly, that's the same age gap as a 20 year old sleeping with a 16 year old, which would be legal. Odd. Anyway, if the 21 year old is a man, he's fucked (pardon the pun.) If the sexes were reversed, generally I'd imagine it wouldn't be enforced.
Laws like this might seem good on paper (in fact I'm inclined to agree it looks good on paper), but are often used to further destroy relationships and erode trust. This is another "men should be scared of women" law in practice, once again wrapped up in the 'think of the children' guise.
This is not unreasonable.
The only 'age gaps' that this prohibits is when one is 16 or 17, and I'm perfectly fine with such a prohibition.
Unfortunately, people lie.
Say you're 23, hooking up with a 22-year-old.
Psych! She's 20, you're now a rapist! Have fun with that!
There is already a problem where girls develop quicker than boys during puberty. It wasn't unknown prior to mandatory ID checks on the doors of nightclubs for underage girls to get in to drink because they looked old enough. It works the other way too, many a time I see young women ask for a child ticket on the buses because the drivers don't ID them.
Are men and dating sites going to ask women for photo ID (which would have to apply to men too) with an increase in the age of consent to protect their backsides?
That's exactly what's going to happen and you're going to have to do it over video chat or something in order to avoid entrapment. Then these women who get asked are going to be all offended and men are going to have to meekly defend themselves while they get all screechy about it.
The thing is even if sanity manages to prevail in politics and this doesn't become a thing if the attitude that's just another in the long list of reasons why it's going to be impossible to be a man and stay in this country anymore because that's what this boils down to. If you have any self-respect and aspirations, if you try to date even a little below your age you're not welcome.
Also, no, to be clear, I'm not talking about teenagers, if they really are going to make the argument for women in their 20's aren't adults then that means as a guy you won't even be able to date a bit younger to find a girlfriend that's worth your time. This article was obviously written up by a bunch of permanently pissed off older women who have realised that they can't get laid anymore because of younger women so they're trying to pressure politicians over age of consent and using the frankly unrelated Russel Brand accusations to do it.
I just fucking can't anymore, this is why I posted, yes Russia is objectively better than this. I think if any Russians took a proper look at what the UK was doing or even the Chinese they'd think this is extreme and ridiculous. I would not even be shocked if they tried to make it illegal to be a passport bro and date women in foreign countries somehow.
I think you misunderstand what I quoted. That would be legal.
The only thing that is not allowed is sleeping with someone under 18 while you being over 21.
Of course, 'lying' would still be a problem then as it is now, and would be under any conceivable system unless you directly address it.
Of course you are. You think all women are angels, so no women would take advantage of such legislation to manipulate and harm men. And yes, women. Because such laws are always only applied to men and never to women, such is the sexism prevalent in society that you seem to fully support.
Does this schizobabble have anything at all to do with what you were replying to?
Oh no! Pointing out that AoV is a feminist who thinks women are angels is "shizobabble". I feel so stupid!
Except that I'm not a feminist and I don't think women are "angels". That's just your retardation and autism speaking.
I have mixed feelings on this. I just looked it up, age of majority is 18, while age of consent is 16. So, the 16/17 year olds you mention are still minors, and that's a group where I don't mind additional (reasonable) restrictions being placed upon. So in theory this is fine. In practice...perhaps also fine, but slippery slope is a concern, as are some other things I'll mention later.
I'm coming at it mostly from a US perspective, though, and we still technically have some rights, so the situation is a little different. But my main slippery slope concern is that age of consent and majority are linked in a lot of people's minds, so this could, down the road, be used to take legal adults' rights.
But the real issue, as others have mentioned, is that this will generally not be enforced equally, and I'm against all laws that have that issue. People lie, and a 21 year old could accidentally sleep with a 17 year old. Interestingly, that's the same age gap as a 20 year old sleeping with a 16 year old, which would be legal. Odd. Anyway, if the 21 year old is a man, he's fucked (pardon the pun.) If the sexes were reversed, generally I'd imagine it wouldn't be enforced.
Laws like this might seem good on paper (in fact I'm inclined to agree it looks good on paper), but are often used to further destroy relationships and erode trust. This is another "men should be scared of women" law in practice, once again wrapped up in the 'think of the children' guise.