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Starfield: Pay $60 to get nagged at by women and homosexuals (apparently) (media.kotakuinaction2.win)
posted 1 year ago by SparkMandrill83 1 year ago by SparkMandrill83 +86 / -0
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– Ender910 11 points 1 year ago +11 / -0

Pathfinder: Kingmaker actually goes out of its way to address this with the player in multiple ways. IE, you might end up confronted further down the road if you've been getting deeply serious with multiple characters (not just from a friendship counter, but after making you've been making a number of clear and explicit dialogue choices).

One or two characters, iirc, openly allow for open relationships, but the writing makes it clear that they want to be sure there'[s some open communication going on and that the player's being at least a little mature about it. Other characters though encourage you to make up your mind and make an honest and open decision. In general it was handled pretty damn well, almost right off the bat.

Not that the way Kingmaker handles it is entirely new, a few other RPG's have done this in a somewhat similar way in the past. Even from a basic design and programming standpoint though it sounds like BG3 totally half-assed the way they implemented it. Perhaps in a partially deliberate way.

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– Galean 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

Honestly Kingmaker seemed just as bad. The couple you save from slavers both hit on you if you talk to them twice. I was like WTF, kill them. Kingmaker had horrible companions, is not that I did not care about them but I hated them to the point I made mercenaries and played with those. I understand that the second game has better companions but looking and seeing that there were no white male companions was a hard pass for me.

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– Ender910 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

They hit on you once or twice yes, but when you give them a firm "no" and they'll stop with that shit. I actually liked Octavia, the Wizard chick. But the Half-Orc can fuck right off. I also liked a good majority of the other party characters. Certainly more than I have in a lot of other RPG's, including Mass Effect.

The only characters I didn't like were the Cleric and the Half-Orc. Valerie was... strange and kind of boring, but she's also a Paladin off-shoot, so much of her personality's about what I'd expect.

From what I've heard about BG3, they basically won't take no for an answer and will keep trying to pester the player anytime an event or dialogue scene is triggered.

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– Galean 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

It was definitely better from a romance point of view but overall either I did not care or I disliked all of them, personality wise they are meh, compare the bard with Grobnar from NWN2, there is also no white human male companion and both the barbarian and the paladin are women that from the start makes me not a fan of the game.

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– Assassin47 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Sounds like the bad harem ending in a visual novel.

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– Ender910 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Yeah, there's definitely some similarities there. And a lot of these subplot events occur at a gradual pace. The game also runs off of a calendar system for a lot of the overall game's progression, which I guess shares some similarities to how VN's are often structured. This of course has a lot of pros and cons in a fullbore RPG.

One thing I will confess is that I did have to play through a lot of the game with a strategy guide to help min-max on certain decisions and preferred results. It's not the kind of thing I'd normally do with RPG's, but on my first attempt I nearly got screwed over during this one chapter that REALLY forces you into a strategic corner if you weren't prepared before-hand. I ended up using the guide as a little bit of a crutch here and there for some of the more complex decision-making actions.

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