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U.S. federal judge halts Texas law requiring ID to view pornographic websites, saying it violates free speech rights (archive.ph)
posted 1 year ago by YesMovement 1 year ago by YesMovement +44 / -0
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– YesMovement [S] 0 points 1 year ago +3 / -3

AFAIK, you can buy guns/ammo/etc online in the US- right?

If so, they require ID/background checks more intense than what porn sites would require. Yet I don't know of any 2A backlash on that.

There are issues/concerns with ID but they have those already on online alcohol/gun sales, I don't see a constitutional argument against online porn ID when IRL sex shops require it, as does the 7/11 when you buy a Playboy.

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– Kienan 12 points 1 year ago +13 / -1

The massive difference is purchasing versus viewing.

You're not (currently) barred from accessing an online gun website without showing the government ID. In fact, that's one of my big concerns; that could end up being the case if they argue you can do the same for porn content. You currently have to show ID to purchase guns, that's it.

I can pull up any gun website on the internet without giving the government shit. That could change if they set precedent like they want to do with porn.

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– YesMovement [S] 0 points 1 year ago +2 / -2

But with porn the viewing IS the purchase.

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– Adamrises 7 points 1 year ago +7 / -0

How? Short of not having an ad block (which everyone who used Youtube should have gotten regardless) no money is gained for anyone until you purchase something.

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– YesMovement [S] 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Because the point of a gun is more than just to look at a photo of it- you can't shoot an intruder with the picture of an AR-15. The point of porn is to watch it, that's the sum total.

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– Kienan 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

But with porn the viewing IS the purchase.

Like with a lot of arguments made in favor of this law, that's a mighty slippery slope ya got there. "Purchase" has a very specific definition, and free viewership ain't that.

For starters the only thing changing hands is you, if you get tired.

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– cccpneveragain 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

I've bought ammo and accessories online and I don't recall any additional checks. It was just like buying anything else online. I think they just left it at my door just like any other purchase. I've bought ammo at the store too, they just check it out like anything else generally. I don't even think there's an age requirement albeit I've not been underage in a long time and never tried it. I'm in Texas. It may be different in other states.

I believe for all/most online gun purchase you have to have a legal licensed firearm dealer (FFL dealer) to have the online purchase sent to and then they will do whatever checks required before handing the gun over. There's also some limited accessories like silencers that require a tax stamp. I will say particularly on the 2nd point the 2A community is not happy with it.

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– Kienan 8 points 1 year ago +8 / -0

Exactly; you can buy anything but a lower receiver (or corresponding part depending on gun configuration) without any additional checks. At least for now. The ATF keeps trying to essentially write laws to change this, despite them not being able to write laws.

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– Strike08 2 points 1 year ago +3 / -1

Potential black mail material. Also you never know what such information can do. The Dutch government stored religious affiliation on personal records before ww2. That info was used by the Nazi's to locate their victims. You don't know who will own stored information at some point.

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– YesMovement [S] 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

That's an argument that the there could be flaws in the ID collection, not that age verification is unconstitutional- if that's true it would be unconstitutional for the sex shop to verify age.

Porn sites already get your credit card info.

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