Midwives are like the feminists of the birthing industry.
They believe in alll this new age woo, then suddenly rediscover their faith in Western medicine the very second the "natural" birthing process gets complicated and hairy.
Then they cut and run like Wile Coyote, dumping the problem mother and child on the hospital and the surgeon at the last minute as strangers to try to use modern science to save everyone's life.
But the attending MD and her nurses on the staff killed the child. I've always assumed that midwives are not medically trained at all, but just play catcher and comfort mothers with new-age platitudes..
I've always assumed that midwives are not medically trained at all, but just play catcher and comfort mothers with new-age platitudes..
It's true the OB/GYN and the hospital was the one that fucked up in this story.
I was just pointing out that midwives aren't a viable alternative. I'm not even confident that midwives use forceps/vacuum suction for complicated vaginal deliveries.
Midwives are fine for uncomplicated young, healthy deliveries. They do have some legit training. They, for example, are a lot more legit than say, chiropractors.
But they operate from a typical feminist model: skim off the easy cases, carry yourself like you are better than the actual specialist doctors, buy into all the latest feel good useless bunk, immediately drop your principles the very second you meet any adversity, run for help to the doctors you just had so much disdain for and their methods, go home leaving the actual professionals to clean up your literal mess.
Over here a midwifery degree is a four year degree, same as a nurse. It is one year less than a doctor, and the difference is about a year spent on the wards with training wheels and mentor. Doctors do more placements on the ward.
New nurses and midwives then spend a year under supervision before they are fully qualified. Midwives work in hospital birthing suites as well as hospital-run home birth services.
Home births are not always a stupid idea. It depends on the risk-factors and the level of support required. It takes a surgeon an hour to scrub-up for a A1 C-Section, so as long as no one is bleeding to death (which drugs can fix, mostly) then a trip in the ambulance doesn't slow down a surgical intervention.
Midwives are like the feminists of the birthing industry.
They believe in alll this new age woo, then suddenly rediscover their faith in Western medicine the very second the "natural" birthing process gets complicated and hairy.
Then they cut and run like Wile Coyote, dumping the problem mother and child on the hospital and the surgeon at the last minute as strangers to try to use modern science to save everyone's life.
But the attending MD and her nurses on the staff killed the child. I've always assumed that midwives are not medically trained at all, but just play catcher and comfort mothers with new-age platitudes..
Its just a different medical path when you look at certification requirements.
It's true the OB/GYN and the hospital was the one that fucked up in this story.
I was just pointing out that midwives aren't a viable alternative. I'm not even confident that midwives use forceps/vacuum suction for complicated vaginal deliveries.
Midwives are fine for uncomplicated young, healthy deliveries. They do have some legit training. They, for example, are a lot more legit than say, chiropractors.
But they operate from a typical feminist model: skim off the easy cases, carry yourself like you are better than the actual specialist doctors, buy into all the latest feel good useless bunk, immediately drop your principles the very second you meet any adversity, run for help to the doctors you just had so much disdain for and their methods, go home leaving the actual professionals to clean up your literal mess.
Over here a midwifery degree is a four year degree, same as a nurse. It is one year less than a doctor, and the difference is about a year spent on the wards with training wheels and mentor. Doctors do more placements on the ward.
New nurses and midwives then spend a year under supervision before they are fully qualified. Midwives work in hospital birthing suites as well as hospital-run home birth services.
Home births are not always a stupid idea. It depends on the risk-factors and the level of support required. It takes a surgeon an hour to scrub-up for a A1 C-Section, so as long as no one is bleeding to death (which drugs can fix, mostly) then a trip in the ambulance doesn't slow down a surgical intervention.
Thanx for the info. Once again, I learn something new here.