How many times does Chase have to say what they are before people stop banking with them? At least the people they are likely to target ie anyone conservative. They don't want your money. Don't put it there. For now, at least, there are options.
This is the uncomfortable truth with those wanting to cut themselves off from the grid and the state. Beside international waters and Antarctica, subject to international treaties, every bit of land on Earth has an owner, either private or the state. At some point you are going to have to engage in the financial and banking system and/or engage with a state that wants its taxes due. It has been the case for a millennium, which is why the Domesday Book was a thing.
The only example I have known to be anywhere near a success is the Principality of Sealand and even then, you'll still see protest from the UK Government over its existence. Even pirate radio stations broadcasting in international waters to the UK and Netherlands didn't stop them being in reach of the law. Someone had to supply them with drinking water and food.
I've heard this talked about by some of the Canadian trucker dissidents, namely Jeremy Mackenzie and his girlfriend.
They were randomly debanked long after the protest by one of Canada’s Big Six banks.
Then they found out there's some sort of secret behind-the-scenes social credit banking network (besides old school credit score).
They detailed going to their little podunk rural credit union branch, explaining the system to the teller who seemed dismayed and sympathetic.
Then, later on while trying to open a simple bank account, these same credit union employees change their tune and return saying "We're sorry, we can't be in business with you".
Government travel cards for the DoD are through Chase. They get your money either way. (And if you wait to be compensated for your expenses to pay them your credit is damaged and you get late fees. It's a wonderful system.)
How many times does Chase have to say what they are before people stop banking with them? At least the people they are likely to target ie anyone conservative. They don't want your money. Don't put it there. For now, at least, there are options.
This is the uncomfortable truth with those wanting to cut themselves off from the grid and the state. Beside international waters and Antarctica, subject to international treaties, every bit of land on Earth has an owner, either private or the state. At some point you are going to have to engage in the financial and banking system and/or engage with a state that wants its taxes due. It has been the case for a millennium, which is why the Domesday Book was a thing.
The only example I have known to be anywhere near a success is the Principality of Sealand and even then, you'll still see protest from the UK Government over its existence. Even pirate radio stations broadcasting in international waters to the UK and Netherlands didn't stop them being in reach of the law. Someone had to supply them with drinking water and food.
Transfer your money to a local bank. The owner either can't afford to care about or just agrees with your politics.
I've heard this talked about by some of the Canadian trucker dissidents, namely Jeremy Mackenzie and his girlfriend.
They were randomly debanked long after the protest by one of Canada’s Big Six banks.
Then they found out there's some sort of secret behind-the-scenes social credit banking network (besides old school credit score).
They detailed going to their little podunk rural credit union branch, explaining the system to the teller who seemed dismayed and sympathetic.
Then, later on while trying to open a simple bank account, these same credit union employees change their tune and return saying "We're sorry, we can't be in business with you".
That escalated quickly. All I said was people should avoid Chase, since they are particularly bad. There are credit unions I like. That's what i do.
Government travel cards for the DoD are through Chase. They get your money either way. (And if you wait to be compensated for your expenses to pay them your credit is damaged and you get late fees. It's a wonderful system.)
I have no idea about that. I use a American Express for work.