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Sinking cargo ship carrying 3,000 vehicles burns out of control in North Sea off the Dutch coast after fire 'caused by electric car'. (archive.is)
posted 2 years ago by xleb2 2 years ago by xleb2 +53 / -0
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– GamingTheSystem-01 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Conventional cars catch on fire so frequently that it's not worth reporting on. It's a dog bites man story. A casual google search showed me this report which claims 212,500 vehicle fires with 516 deaths in 2018 in the United States alone.

At one of my old jobs, a car caught on fire right outside my office window and it barely made the local news. I, personally, sitting in place, witnessed a vehicle fire from start to finish. That's how common they are. If you live anywhere densely populated, then there's probably more than one every single day in your local area.

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– SamuelColt 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

How many of those "conventional" vehicle fires happen on container ships during transport?

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– GamingTheSystem-01 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Probably not very many because the fuel supply is transported separately from the vehicle. Which is probably what we should be doing with electric cars. Transport the hazardous component (batteries) on a separate ship to reduce the damage when incidents happen.

A comparable question might be "how often do oil tankers catch on fire?". I don't know the answer, but there have been at least two this year:

January: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I34ESUp6mdI

May: https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/01/asia/malaysia-coast-oil-tanker-fire-rescue-intl-hnk/index.html

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– deleted 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0
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– GamingTheSystem-01 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

You fill both ships. There's not much loss in efficiency, just separating hazardous material. Maybe you should look up how many ships full of oil it takes to power all of the gasoline powered cars. It's a lot.

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– SR388-SAX 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

The numbers you're reporting don't specify what type of vehicles were on fire. You're going to have to get a little less casual if you want to find some numbers that actually mean anything.

One other thing I couldn't find in a casual skimming of that article is how many of those fires were due to accidents as opposed to spontaneous bursts of flame.

If data backing your claim was so easy to find, maybe you'd have given something that's actually meaningful to the discussion. And no, "vehicle fires happen all the time" is not a useful observation in the context of this discussion.

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– GamingTheSystem-01 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

What percentage of that 212,500 do you think are from electric vehicles? Make a prediction, then I'll go look it up.

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– GamingTheSystem-01 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Make a prediction faggot. How many of those 212,500 vehicle fires were electric? Pick a number.

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– SR388-SAX 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

You're the one making the claims, you bring the numbers, midwit.

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– GamingTheSystem-01 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

In 2020 out of a total of 215,636 vehicle fires, 52 were electric vehicles. 0.02%

Since about 1% of the cars on the road are electric, this means a gas powered vehicle is about 50 times more likely to catch on fire. Since you're a super genius, you likely already suspected this and were just lying to farm upvotes because green = libs = bad.

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– deleted 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

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